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Objectivity in journalism became a matter of opinion

21 pointsby 6y agoeconomist.com
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6y agoHN ↗

Does anyone have a link to a non-paywalled version?

6y agoHN ↗

https://archive.is/0Vyx0

And this article is the bias'ed BS why we will all dump journalists and go to blogs since journalists clearly can't do their jobs and not lie.

After Mr Trump told four non-white congresswomen to “go back” to the “crime-infested places from which they came”

Here's the actual tweet - https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/11503813950780006...

This tweet is not accurately represented by the above quote as far as I'm concerned.

And it annoys me since they could also have linked it, but didn't, because they still think they are the gatekeepers to information.

6y agoHN ↗

I'm curious 1) in what way you think the quote isn't representative of the president's tweet? 2) how you would distill the tweet into one sentence if you were asked to summarize it for an article?

6y agoHN ↗

2) I thought about it and I can't. I don't have the written skills. I would have to quote it in whole or a large section. I also think a tweet is toxic because it's short, but a sentence is worse.

1) Their quote is a textbook cliche. It implies he's a hillbilly to stupid to even know what you can and can't say. His wording was not that.

I would never have used this tweet in this article. It's too complex.

6y agoHN ↗

Whole articles were written about that tweet; it isn't the focus of this article, it's being used to illustrate a point.

He's not a "hillbilly" (that's a derogatory sideswipe btw) and he's not stupid, either. The tweet is selected because it's one example of Trump's very long history of racism. His words were written by him, and if they give the impression that he's racist, well, that's the thrust of the article: you chose your own euphemisms, exposing your own biases, but refraining from calling his words and actions racist isn't "objective" in sight of the evidence.

6y agoHN ↗

Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

Well, that's clearly accurate.

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe...

So I guess you're taking issue with this being about the squad? There is some plausible denial there, since three of them were born in the US. Which congresswomen do you think he was referring to?

And yes, they and I didn't quote his editorializing on whatever unmentionable countries he's referring to, I suppose, because there's no real substance to it. What's your take?

6y agoHN ↗

Then come back and show us how.

This is not 'go back to where you came from' quote.

And that's what annoys me.

I know three of the four were US born citizens because I left this article and read an objective article.

I think it was racist, but the author of this article clearly doesn't understand why and that's why they need to be objective.