This website itself (that is, go to http://htmlfivewow.com/) is a (very nice) Google presentation on HTML5. I've learned about a few APIs I didn't know existed.
I got a crash ( using chrome on windows 7). I did get to see a slow scrolling rectangular 3d cube before the tab crashed. The crash is probably due to the specific video card I have in use. Nice demo still.
3d doesn't seem to do much of anything (Safari 5.1.1, OS X). It doesn't crash but it doesn't seem to do anything aside from changing the height of the terminal and creating a large, blank space above it.
It brings up a 3D view of a thin box which you can orbit around using the left mouse button. Works here on Chrome 15 (Mac) but I believe I enabled some WebGL related flags a while ago.
3d shows you a 3d visualization of the file/directory structure (which is empty by default), try mkdir or adding file from your computer with drag'n'drop (in the terminal, not the visualization).
Pretty cool to see HTML5 in action like this. It runs quite well and even though seemingly lacking in some functionality is one of the better terminal emulators I've seen in the browser. It'd be nice to see some additional utilities though, such as curl and lynx would be a nice meta-utility. ;)
It's because of cross-origin restrictions. Try http://enable-cors.org/ or the site itself. I guess they could use a proxy if they want it to work for every URL.
What do you mean "finally"? The file manager in Jurassic Park was a (fully working) demo 3d file manager shipped with SGIs. I played with it on my university computers back in '94.
Then install Chrome. HTML5 isn't an official standard yet. If you want to play on the bleeding edge, you're gonna need Chrome. Chrome and Firefox get updated every 6 weeks so things are changing fast.
On another note, we need a suite so Opera, Webkit, Chrome, and Firefox can certify against. An Acid test for all the new technology.
seems to only work in chrome...that's why I'm a bit weary of using this new stuff...since chances are that 90% of your users won't be able to get the full experience
With each new HTML5 demo of something that comes up, I get the sneaking suspicion that HTML5 adoption is going to be slow.
It seems the capabilities of HTML5 and what you can do with it from an application basis are fine and dandy. It's just my observation and very-limited experience, but I've yet to see anything that really knocks it out of the park for me.
I'm currently working on a project that relies heavily on client-side javascript and flash (for media delivery). We have spent some time evaluating HTML5 and whether we should "cut the cord" and move to developing for that basis.
At this point, we've determined it makes no sense to do so for one simple reason -- it offers us no valued advantage over our current investment. While we hope to see the adoption improve, we're not holding our collective breath.
We're well aware of the Flash situation with non-desktops.
It brings us to a major business decision.
Do we begin migration away from Flash (which we despise with a white-hot passion), even though it represents > 90% of our customers environments? Though a few have asked about our tablet strategy, we haven't had any customers (specific vertical market, enterprise space) push the tablet/mobile conversation.
If it were purely a technical motivation, we would have abandoned Flash long ago. But, we can't yet make the migration away from Flash without seeing good HTML5 support on our customers' desktops.
It's possible that the HTML5 revolution will come from new developers that never learned Flash (or, who like me, tried it once in high school, but didn't inhale).
Yeah, which ones? I'm actually building a simple browser based text editor (think Writeroom/iaWriter/the other distraction-free editors) but in a browser with full-screen mode if I can figure that out.
I'm really interested in how he got the caret customized like a terminal caret or cursor, whatever you want to call it. I'm decently experienced with web programming but I'm e,harassed to say I don't know JavaScript which is a must these days.
This little project inspired me and let me know that what I'm thinking of is possible.
Terminal.js is good reading. According to his comments there, Eric plans to add tab suggest and html5 audio fallback. I wonder what the end game for this project is and if a text editor is coming - * crosses fingers for vim*.
I remember seeing it at some google presentation.
This website itself (that is, go to http://htmlfivewow.com/) is a (very nice) Google presentation on HTML5. I've learned about a few APIs I didn't know existed.
What is '3d' supposed to do? It crashes on my browser (Chrome 15)
I tried 3d and was too confused as to its purpose. I didn't experience a crash however and I'm using the same version of Chrome on OSX
I got a crash ( using chrome on windows 7). I did get to see a slow scrolling rectangular 3d cube before the tab crashed. The crash is probably due to the specific video card I have in use. Nice demo still.
3d doesn't seem to do much of anything (Safari 5.1.1, OS X). It doesn't crash but it doesn't seem to do anything aside from changing the height of the terminal and creating a large, blank space above it.
It brings up a 3D view of a thin box which you can orbit around using the left mouse button. Works here on Chrome 15 (Mac) but I believe I enabled some WebGL related flags a while ago.
3d shows you a 3d visualization of the file/directory structure (which is empty by default), try mkdir or adding file from your computer with drag'n'drop (in the terminal, not the visualization).
or try 'init' - loades some random files.
It renders a square tile that is rotatable with your mouse.
Try using "mkdir" to create a couple directories and then navigating around. It's pretty cool, actually.
Is there anyway to create files?
Pretty cool to see HTML5 in action like this. It runs quite well and even though seemingly lacking in some functionality is one of the better terminal emulators I've seen in the browser. It'd be nice to see some additional utilities though, such as curl and lynx would be a nice meta-utility. ;)
There's wget.
`wget` returns an error with every URL I try.
It's because of cross-origin restrictions. Try http://enable-cors.org/ or the site itself. I guess they could use a proxy if they want it to work for every URL.
The unix console from jurassic park is finally brought to life!
3d works for me on chrome (Windows 7). It creates a 3 dimensional representation of the file structure.
Weirdly I mentioned the Jurassic Park interface in another HN thread.
(http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3225701)
Link to software and descriptions (http://nooface.net/3dui.shtml)
In case you're having an IRIX machine available, here is a page with a working link to the software : http://www.siliconbunny.com/fsn-the-irix-3d-file-system-tool...
What do you mean "finally"? The file manager in Jurassic Park was a (fully working) demo 3d file manager shipped with SGIs. I played with it on my university computers back in '94.
It would be great to see TermKit[1] implemented in a demo like this.
[1] https://github.com/unconed/TermKit
3D didn't crash on me (Chrome 15 latest), but nothing is happening?
yay for web standards such as HTML5! (it doesnt work in my browser, in fact i guess it just works in chrome)
Then install Chrome. HTML5 isn't an official standard yet. If you want to play on the bleeding edge, you're gonna need Chrome. Chrome and Firefox get updated every 6 weeks so things are changing fast.
On another note, we need a suite so Opera, Webkit, Chrome, and Firefox can certify against. An Acid test for all the new technology.
Here is one such test suite: http://html5test.com/
Hmmm, you want someone to spend 5 days coding for your browser when you could spend 1 minute to upgrade. Nice.
Working on Ubuntu 10.04 with Chrome 15. It looks really good!
seems to only work in chrome...that's why I'm a bit weary of using this new stuff...since chances are that 90% of your users won't be able to get the full experience
If you don't test and fix things for multiple browsers this is true of any web standard, not just the latest versions of CSS, JS, and HTML.
Invisible font in Opera - amazing indeed ;)
With each new HTML5 demo of something that comes up, I get the sneaking suspicion that HTML5 adoption is going to be slow.
It seems the capabilities of HTML5 and what you can do with it from an application basis are fine and dandy. It's just my observation and very-limited experience, but I've yet to see anything that really knocks it out of the park for me.
I'm currently working on a project that relies heavily on client-side javascript and flash (for media delivery). We have spent some time evaluating HTML5 and whether we should "cut the cord" and move to developing for that basis.
At this point, we've determined it makes no sense to do so for one simple reason -- it offers us no valued advantage over our current investment. While we hope to see the adoption improve, we're not holding our collective breath.
HTML5 works on phone and tablet browsers; Flash barely does, and it won't at all in the near future.
We're well aware of the Flash situation with non-desktops.
It brings us to a major business decision.
Do we begin migration away from Flash (which we despise with a white-hot passion), even though it represents > 90% of our customers environments? Though a few have asked about our tablet strategy, we haven't had any customers (specific vertical market, enterprise space) push the tablet/mobile conversation.
If it were purely a technical motivation, we would have abandoned Flash long ago. But, we can't yet make the migration away from Flash without seeing good HTML5 support on our customers' desktops.
The thing is, as I played a bit with HTML5, it doesn't actually work that well on mobile browsers either.
It does work reasonably well on iOS, but on Android Browser, Flash does usually work better than HTML5. Which is a bit sad.
It's possible that the HTML5 revolution will come from new developers that never learned Flash (or, who like me, tried it once in high school, but didn't inhale).
What exactly can't you do in html5 that you can do in flash?
Not sure. Why?
Provide a working solution for all customers. Not just 25% of them.
Actual audio support really isn't there as far as I can tell.
No joy on FF7 Mac.
Did anyone else you try using sudo and see the results?
Make sure to turn the volume nice and loud!
Augh! How do you make it stop?
Reading through it I see the code is available on google code:
http://code.google.com/p/html5wow
One of my favorite things about the web:
I just learned three new CSS tricks from using the web inspector to figure out how he accomplished some things.
Which ones?
Yeah, which ones? I'm actually building a simple browser based text editor (think Writeroom/iaWriter/the other distraction-free editors) but in a browser with full-screen mode if I can figure that out.
I'm really interested in how he got the caret customized like a terminal caret or cursor, whatever you want to call it. I'm decently experienced with web programming but I'm e,harassed to say I don't know JavaScript which is a must these days.
This little project inspired me and let me know that what I'm thinking of is possible.
Terminal.js is good reading. According to his comments there, Eric plans to add tab suggest and html5 audio fallback. I wonder what the end game for this project is and if a text editor is coming - * crosses fingers for vim*.
Edit: The entire deck is impressive. Click the Chrome icon here: http://www.htmlfivewow.com/slide52.
This is awesome. I dragged an audio file, ran open to play it and a later slide showed the dir, let me adjust playback rate etc. May fork.
Project homepage: https://code.google.com/p/html5wow/
Edit: I am late to the game, just found html5rocks. Wow.
Seems to be another hidden (in addition to sudo, which is awesome btw) command called "init". Give it a whirl.
The first thing I tried was `uname`, but it didn't work. I was kind of expecting it to do something clever.
Type in "sudo". Its funny.
Hit Control+S to make the terminal look like a CRT+flicker.
(Found by looking through the js)