so how does this work? QEMU?

e: i checked linas mastodon and apparently it's using FEX

https://fex-emu.com/

It's explained in the video, it uses https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX

Will FEX ever leverage the hardware that Apple design for Rosetta 2 trickery? It seems like a heavy lift for a general purpose emulator, but at the same time there's probably a bunch of performance wins to be had.

From when I last checked, it still requires a custom 4K kernel as Asahi only ships with a 16K kernel, and FEX won’t work with those.

So you need to compile a custom kernel for FEX to run and Steam to work.

Still, great work from Lina and the Asahi team, very excited about getting full FEX support on stock kernels (I have a backlog of Humble Bundle games to try with this).

For whoever else who doesn't know wtf a 16k kernel is supposed to be: https://asahilinux.org/2021/10/progress-report-september-202...

Aargh.

    <script>document.referrer.startsWith("https://news.ycombinator.com")&&(console.log("Hacker News is becoming worse than 4chan. Do better."),document.location="https://google.com")</script>

How is the referrer still a thing in 2023?

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/smart-referer/ works well for me.

Without using addons:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1130505

Does anyone know the context for that?

https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110060225535294882

It’s a shame because most of the top 10 top level comments ended up being just pure praise and admiration, and all the negative ones were downvoted or debunked. I think the main disagreement was the people speculating on the identity of Lina.

This is hilarious, you're actually speculating about "the real reason" after getting linked to the literal statement of why it was done with example comments given, most of which are doing exactly what you're doing here: irrelevant speculation and going of on tangents

If there is a basic archetype of a HN comment, yours is a perfect example of it

I follow Hector on Mastodon and he's posted a few times in the past about how he dislikes the HN comments and often finds them toxic. He didn't implement any anti-HN measures in his sites before though, so there was clearly something different this time. What I think elevated this from "ignore" to "block" were a few creepy subthreads relating to him and the identity of Lina that I am not going to repeat. Additionally I thought this was a shame because those nasty ones ended up being flagged and downvoted by the community, and drowned out by a boatload of comments saying how much people admired the work Hector, Lina, Alyssa and the Asahi crew are doing. So he's under the impression that most HNers are dumb idiots who dislike him and and are comofortable doxxing people, which I don't think is the case.

However if you're looking for the basic archetype of a bad HN comment I think yours is actually much more appropriate. Very poor form :-/

I actually kind of know marcan, but sorry, this is just too much of a low hanging fruit to let it just pass by.

*Ahem*

Complaining about people not reading the article and then denying those people the ability to read the article is 300% concentrated irony. Holy shit.

(I'm assuming the motivations behind the redirect are what marcan is complaining about. marcan's complaint by itself is valid, of course. People only reading headlines is nothing new.)

I don't get the reason behind his complaints about not 100% of all the comments being focused on the one topic. It's a discussion forum for humans, not a bureaucratic committee. Comment folding exists for a reason.

And while it sure can be frustrating when completely avoidable questions are asked, I don't get why that's so bad that one has to block the website. Especially considering 95% of comments to marcan's post linked above could be summarized as "haha orange site bad" - a lack of substance doesn't seem to be the issue.

I'm sure this frustration has a cause, but I struggle to see what that is.

Wow, I haven't seen that since https://jwz.org used to redirect HN referrers to a certain old school NSFW internet meme. Plus, I don't think even he still pulls that kind of redirect BS these days.

Just confirmed he still does that

Oops, sorry about that. I must have had something cached from when I verified that I had the correct tld, though in the end, jwz.com, jwz.net, and jwz.org all lead to the same place.

I guess Safari doesn't populate referrer then, because this was no issue for me.

Long-press and open in new tab is a good workaround until browsers wise up and stop sending referer headers.

Why doesn't HN strip referrer headers?

It's the browser that sends the Referer (sic) header.

Does anyone here use Asahi as a daily driver? I’m curious to try it on my M2 MBP.

I used to use it on my M1 MBP. For M2 MBP only the 13" is supported, 14" and 16" still need some "minor" work to let the components know how to initialize in those models. Since I switched to M2 MBP I haven't been able to use it lately and miss it :).

For day to day the biggest pain points for me were the lack of speaker, microphone, and webcam support. Bluetooth and 3.5mm audio worked fine though. GPU support was useable for browsing and whatnot before so with the recent massive speedup and continued OpenGL support improvements I can only imagine it's even better now. Wi-Fi, touchpad, keyboard, screen brightness, and USB all seemed to work fine for me. I think HDMI out, DP alt mode from the type c, and thunderbolt were all unsupported as was touch-id. Battery life was worse than macOS but still better than a normal laptop (for my usage pattern at least). Software side it's ALARM (Arch Linux ARM) based and "I use Arch btw" so I had no complaints. Users who prefer other distros may not like that and while it's possible to get certain other distros running the experience isn't as good and seems complicated. Wayland is the officially recommended display server option and XWayland works fine in it for running X11 only apps. Early on the 16k pages created a lot of headache but that seemed out of the way towards the end of me having the M1. Some Electron apps were slow to upgrade to a Chromium base which included the 16k page support. I never really messed with FEX or anything about running x86 and/or Windows stuff on it, just native packages. The installer was pretty straightforward to use.

For detailed feature support tables this page has the info https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support

Oh and you can swap the command/option keys around to the non-Apple way if you want:

  echo 'options hid-apple swap_opt_cmd=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/hid-apple.conf

This will be great once ready. That and audio are the biggest features I'm awaiting.

According to https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support there's at least partial audio support for every machine except the models introduced so far this year, using the 3.5mm output. The built-in speakers are still disabled by default while they work on the software required to drive them at reasonable loudness without burning them out. It's not clear to me whether audio over HDMI works for the models where they already have HDMI support.

How does it compare to crossover?

Linux has come a long way in terms of gaming. Literarily all my steam games run on Linux without issue, rig being a 3090 amd ryzen. I am surprised at how stable everything is and how well the ui works (kde, xfce, and openbox - the latter for focused work).

It's ironically more compatible than windows itself for some old games