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Douglas Adams and the exterminated Doctor Who adventure

46 pointsby 2d agobbc.co.uk
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3h agoHN ↗

The unfinished original is one of my favorites, and the 2017 animated version is also wonderful.

I feel like the animated version filled in gaps I hadn't even realized were there in the old one that just had the voice overs.

If you like classic who, Adams, or both, and haven't seen it buy the blu-ray!

3h agoHN ↗

Thanks for posting that. Good to know the BBC is moving on from Davies, and investing in a full season with a new production company.

Star Trek is in far worse shape these days. According to Riker, this is the first time in decades where there is no TV or movie even in the planning phase.

3h agoHN ↗

And Star Wars. Complete train wreck. Disney just has so much money to burn from live action remakes they can limp along.

3h agoHN ↗

Development on ‘09 started after production wrapped on enterprise in March 2005, although there wasn’t a lot in it. Production in earnest was certainly underway 18 months after.

2h agoHN ↗

I'll be honest, I think Dr Who is due for a 1989-style shelving for a while. I've loved watching the show since I was young, but I think the quality has fallen off significantly recently. Capaldi was the last "great doctor" in my opinion. Whittaker is a good actress, I thought she performed well in Broadchurch (ironically also written by Chibnall), but her writing was just awful, and it feels like they've just spent the last couple of seasons nostalgia-baiting the fans, like with the Midnight episode

2h agoHN ↗

It fell apart in the Capaldi era. The "kill the moon" was the "jump the shark" of neu-Who

2h agoHN ↗

Capaldi had strong episodes throughout his run, but yes, I personally did dislike some of the storylines. The Zygon stuff felt very weak to me, and I never understood the "The Hybrid" storyline. But heaven sent/hell bent were bangers, and I definitely enjoyed his finale Cybermen episodes.

But yes, the moon suddenly reappearing in between shots, perfectly fine and identical to before, was very silly

1h agoHN ↗

They went ultra woke and it tanked exactly as you'd expect.

1h agoHN ↗

Doctor Who has been "woke" for a long time. I believe the 4th doctor discuss what pronouns to use for an alien. There have been several episodes essentially about slavery in the 10th and 11th doctors runs. Also you should read about The Happiness Patrol, a 7th doctor episode

1h agoHN ↗

I believe the 4th doctor discuss what pronouns to use for an alien.

You believe it because you've memorised it for such a time as this, but it is not the same as woke "black is white if it feels it is" style feelings.

There have been several episodes essentially about slavery in the 10th and 11th doctors runs

Being anti-slavery isn't woke. Thinking that changing the name of a git branch from "master" to "main" fights slavery is woke.

1h agoHN ↗

More like "go woke because you've run out of ideas." The only "woke" thing about Whittaker was that the doctor was female, something they would have done in earlier episodes (in fact, did do) and wouldn't have made a big deal about it.

But they had no reason for people to watch Who by the time you got to Whittaker, and the show should have been cancelled already but it was making too much money, so they treated her like a Cousin Oliver and made the fact that she was the First Female Doctor (not even true) into a huge thing because they had nothing else.

1h agoHN ↗

I think the episode written by Malorie Blackman about some random time criminal appearing during MLK and Rosa Parks' protests would fall under "woke" too, but that was just a shit episode because of bad writing. A competent episode writer could probably have done something better with that time period/setting

11m agoHN ↗

I wasn’t aware of those episodes but from that description sounds like people writing the show who despise the character and the audience.

1h agoHN ↗

Maybe Capaldi ended on a high note. I was done with the show after the moon episode and quit watching. I couldn't keep suspending disbelief after that. It wasn't just one bad episode the whole thing felt tired.

Capaldi was a great actor and it was nice that he got some good scripts (I really liked the one where he was in Doctor Prison, great concept), but his run felt to me like a show running out of ideas.

I didn't watch the Whittaker doctor. Heard it was awful and wasn't surprised. I eventually saw the pilot and it was indeed, awful.

1h agoHN ↗

Back when it was airing, I sort of lost interest around Capaldi. I think his episodes were a bit too "mature" for me, when I preferred funny scifi show. But I've come to appreciate a lot of his episodes more. But he did have some really dogshit ones, like the moon episode, The Caretaker (Where a school gets attacked by a dalek knockoff), and Sleep No More, which was so bad that me and my girlfriend spent the whole episode talking about other stuff when having a marathon rewatch. Both of us are big fans of doctor who in general

2h agoHN ↗

I recoverd a 3/4” studio broadcast VCR/P that when checked, contains a tape that says Doctor Who. I also at once recovered a wire recorder, with a wire spool inside, and another time wax cylinder recorder, with cylinders. All sitting there as minor mysteries. ;)

47m agoHN ↗

There have also been a couple of audio versions over the years (one with Paul McGann).

There was also a partial BBC attempt in late 80s/90s that was released on VHS with Tom Baker narrating the missing scenes.