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Fujitsu launches made-in-Japan next-generation CPU FUJITSU-MONAKA

80 pointsby 1d agoglobal.fujitsu
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45m agoHN ↗

It's Arm based, although they barely mention that.

37m agoHN ↗

Thanks I was, of course, looking and very curious what their tool chain story will be.

30m agoHN ↗

Yes the lack of transparency on ARM architecture and the obfuscation of the RAM capacity with just the slot information is annoying. Not sure if it is deliberate to sell this at a premium to "mainframe" customers or whether its just their marketing folk not being on the ball. Fascinated by the fact Japan has a 2nm process node but I suspect that too is marketing. Perhaps the 2nm portion of the chip is done at TSMC and the rest of the package done in Japan or something like that. It's not like there's a plethora of 2nm Fabs around the planet to choose from.

12m agoHN ↗

If they didn't mention SVE2, I wouldn't have known either... that would make it arm9 at the earliest...

44m agoHN ↗

Iam very curious as to how well it'll perform outside of Asia.

39m agoHN ↗

And if they'll sell it, seeing as they market it as 'sovereign AI'.

35m agoHN ↗

Fun fact, Fujitsu used to run their own fabs in Japan until they were sold to UMC and now they're another UMC fab although they are stuck at like the 20nm node. So this is likely made at JASM.

30m agoHN ↗

I think they'd say if the CPU was fabbed in Japan, instead there's some very "careful" wording:

next-generation CPU, FUJITSU-MONAKA [1], designed and developed in Japan

Fujitsu MONAKA Server, powered by the FUJITSU-MONAKA CPU, enhances sovereign capabilities through domestic manufacturing,

22m agoHN ↗

FUJITSU-MONAKA utilizes a 3D-stacked architecture with a state-of-the-art 2nm process for the core and a 5nm process for the cache and I/O sections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Advanced_Semiconductor_M...

The Phase 2 factory was under construction as of January 2025, next to the Phase 1 facility, and is expected to be completed by 2027.[3] Initially planned for manufacturing semiconductors using a 6 nm process, 3 nm was incorporated into production plans for 2028 in 2026

35m agoHN ↗

Where are the CPUs fabbed? They make a big deal about "sovereign" but is the CPU actually made in Japan, or do they rely on TSMC?

Also odd how big an emphasis they put on AI inference when they don't build the GPU?

32m agoHN ↗

The article says that it’s manufactured in Japan.

28m agoHN ↗

where exactly does it say that? I don't consider "designed and developed in Japan" to be the same as manufactured there

26m agoHN ↗

At the very top of the article: "Achieving world-class AI inference performance through Japan-developed 2nm 3D-stacked CPU and server integrated, developed, and manufactured in Japan"

21m agoHN ↗

"Japan-developed CPU..." plus the server itself (parts, power supplies, case, etc.) integrated, developed and manufactured in Japan. It sounds like they're weasel-wording it a bit, but I don't think the CPU itself is manufactured in Japan, only "developed."

14m agoHN ↗

Yep. I'd say the CPU is manufactured outside, and the rest of the server in Japan.

12m agoHN ↗

Pretty sure it's worded in a way that it applies only to the server, so it should be read as two distinct things:

- Japan-developed 2nm 3D-stacked CPU

- server integrated, developed, and manufactured in Japan

27m agoHN ↗

put on AI inference when they don't build the GPU?

GPU in AI world is essentially a set of specific matrix calculations that this CPU supports on hardware-level. Thought memory speed seems low.

25m agoHN ↗

Would be cool to get ahold of one of these in the US.

I do find it odd that the 2U model has less storage capacity than the 1U on their chart. That doesn't make much sense to me.

18m agoHN ↗

The two made-in-Japan, premium grade, Fujitsu laptops I had to work with were by far the worse pieces of electronic I have ever used. Both exhibited identical defects: fans running continuously at maximum speed, and the batteries would completely die within hours of the devices being powered off. Windows or Linux. And don't talk about that tiny unresponsive trackpad to me. Never again.

13m agoHN ↗

The Fujitsu Lifebooks were legendary for their robustness back in the day, I'm genuinely sad you had that experience.

The only fujitsu laptops I used was back in 2011- it was a budget version for on-call and it was fine..

Sounds like the fans running 100% probably contributed significantly to the issue here. If I had to guess it was likely that the C-States were disabled in BIOS somehow so the CPU clock was running at full tilt the whole time, maybe combined with a bad thermal paste job.

I'm not here to defend Fujitsu but I've had really bad experiences with basically every major laptop brand (Dell: majorly bad coil whine and especially faulty soldered RAM, HP: keys vanishing from the keyboard and very weak hinges that break all the time, Apple: The GPU unsoldering itself and the butterfly keyboard shenanigans).

I don't really know any brand with a flawless track record sadly.

Before anyone brings up Thinkpads, they're trading on a reputation that hasn't been true for over a decade. If you have fond memories of a thinkpad it's most likely that you had it from before 2016, or it's "fine", but certainly not great.

7m agoHN ↗

I wouldn't trust that this CPU can do maths properly.