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Original Sony PlayStation 2 security chip 'broken wide open' after 26 years

68 pointsby 1h agotomshardware.com
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1h agoHN ↗

This will be great for preservation of PS2 games. Well done!

It seems like preservation of games for later consoles is a lost cause. If I pull out my PS5 30 years from now and pop in my Cyberpunk 2077 disk to play, I'm going to have a barely playable game.

It's better than nothing, I suppose, but I won't be able to re-play the excellent version that I played through last year.

56m agoHN ↗

If you pop in gta6 you'll have exactly no game at all!

45m agoHN ↗

pop in my Cyberpunk 2077 disk to play

It depends if you have a ps4 disk or a ps5 disk.

The ps5 disk is the "Ultimate Edition" version. It was released 3 years after launch and contains the 2.0 update

43m agoHN ↗

PS3 has been jailbroken since 2010 (remember geohot?)

The original fat PS3 and the first few years of slims are also completely “open” as well (with custom firmware that’s fairly easy to install).

If anything, the PS3 was easier to break its security on.

36m agoHN ↗

In 30 years you may need to modify your PS5 just to get it booting. A lot of retro consoles have to be recapped.

Also the plastic gets brittle. I was replacing a fuse on a PS2 motherboard and some of the ribbon connector pieces just shattered on reassembly. There are many challenges to preservation. Eventually all that old hardware will be all gone.

29m agoHN ↗

I think what’s worse is flash lifespan. You can recap, but can you find replacements for failed flash? Can you reimage it with the correct data? Can you even access the flash, which may be buried inside a chip somewhere?

Plastic may get brittle but I think modern plastics do this less than 90s plastics.

26m agoHN ↗

I was surprised that the “fix” for the failed storage module in my slim 4GB Xbox 360 was to tear it down and remove the storage module. It isn’t usually that easy.

I am also impressed they managed to use worse flash than the 15 year old $10 USB 2.0 drive I plugged in as a replacement.

Yes, it was one of those projects you see what you still have in the bin. Hey, this one is period correct!

7m agoHN ↗

It's only a matter of time until most of these games get vibe-coded back end clones. Still not as good as a full ROM but at least and improvement over complete unplayability.

2m agoHN ↗

In the PS2 days people thought that about the PS2, too.

37m agoHN ↗

Yeah, and day-one patches only exist while the servers do. Archive the PKGs.

26m agoHN ↗

This is the one you can't mechapwn, right? Can we do anything with this information?

25m agoHN ↗

Some of the reverse engineering tricks utilized by DiscoStarslayer include chemically decapping the CXP102064 to expose the die, then using microscopes and optical dumping skills to analyze the silicon chip circuitry. In this case, a lucky break during the hacking apparently uncovered an exploit that provided a method whereby the chip’s data could be extracted through software.

This is next level commitment to the cause.

Also, I can totally imagine their reaction when they discovered the exploit and realized they could put down the ... chemicals. XD