"Across algorithm engineering, mathematical optimization, and GPU kernel engineering, Dream-RSI achieves competitive or improved discovery quality while substantially reducing discovery cost in several settings."
Fairly certain all the labs are doing this (RSI) at this point. It's a question of how public their proclamations are about it and how they're positioning PR etc.
Even today's lighter weight models know how to write kernels and optimize them. I've had DeepSeek 4.1 Flash tune the crap out custom CUDA kernels on my own codebase and it was entirely competent at it. And cheap.
The innovation pieces will be in the harnesses to support this. Which I guess is partially what's going on here.
It's not really RSI if you are just using the AI as a tool to help make it better. It has to be doing it itself, no? Otherwise self-hosted compilers are RSI.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, calling this RSI seems misleading?
This looks like an optimization of current training methods, and a good one, but not "RSI" in the sense of a system that can perpetually improve itself forever.
Does RSI actually mean anything specific anymore? RSI, AGI, at this point seem like buzzwords. Sure AGI has definition that are measurable, say "better than 95% of humans on 95% of intellectual tasks" but if we used that definition we already have AGI and almost no one thinks we have achieved AGI. We use AIs to train AIs which we use to train AIs, why is that not RSI? How much human intervention means that is not RSI?
This is a solid and very interesting paper! The authors were kind enough to publish the complete prompt for it (appendix B.1 on page 18), so anyone can try their approach with any LLM and see the results.
Would be very glad if anyone explained to me if and why this is revolutionary.
Here you go:
"Across algorithm engineering, mathematical optimization, and GPU kernel engineering, Dream-RSI achieves competitive or improved discovery quality while substantially reducing discovery cost in several settings."
Probably isn't by virtue of it being publicly released
Fairly certain all the labs are doing this (RSI) at this point. It's a question of how public their proclamations are about it and how they're positioning PR etc.
Even today's lighter weight models know how to write kernels and optimize them. I've had DeepSeek 4.1 Flash tune the crap out custom CUDA kernels on my own codebase and it was entirely competent at it. And cheap.
The innovation pieces will be in the harnesses to support this. Which I guess is partially what's going on here.
It's not really RSI if you are just using the AI as a tool to help make it better. It has to be doing it itself, no? Otherwise self-hosted compilers are RSI.
That's my point about the harness.
Why would you assume it is revolutionary?
Because “recursive self-improvement” is widely understood, even at labs, as having a non-trivial chance of eradicating human life.
This is like asking why a paper called “I discovered God. This is the specific proof.” is revolutionary. Just tedious levels of incredulity.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, calling this RSI seems misleading?
This looks like an optimization of current training methods, and a good one, but not "RSI" in the sense of a system that can perpetually improve itself forever.
Does RSI actually mean anything specific anymore? RSI, AGI, at this point seem like buzzwords. Sure AGI has definition that are measurable, say "better than 95% of humans on 95% of intellectual tasks" but if we used that definition we already have AGI and almost no one thinks we have achieved AGI. We use AIs to train AIs which we use to train AIs, why is that not RSI? How much human intervention means that is not RSI?
This is a solid and very interesting paper! The authors were kind enough to publish the complete prompt for it (appendix B.1 on page 18), so anyone can try their approach with any LLM and see the results.
So its more like a harness (like Codex etc) on top of any existing LLM?