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Microsoft says AI rival Anthropic could have 'disastrous impact' on humanity

23 pointsby 1h agobbc.co.uk
23 comments
1h agoHN ↗

First, OpenAI runs around screaming and yelling for OSS (and Chinese) models to be regulated and banned. Then Anthropic yells and screams the sky(net) is falling and going to kill us all, let's regulate and ensure AI has built in kill switches. And... Now Microsoft's turn. The rivalry is honestly becoming a joke. Can these big-tech corps grow the f*k up and play nicely in the sandpit?

39m agoHN ↗

The whole story is a joke--Microsoft has AI?

Apparently they're cooking up MAI (Microsoft AI), and I'd seen their small Phi models listed online. Calling Anthropic a competitor is hilarious.

26m agoHN ↗

Microsoft holds a 27% ownership stake in OpenAI

17m agoHN ↗

No, because they are all products of unchecked late-stage capitalism, which could have disastrous consequences for humanity.

1h agoHN ↗

Summarized.

"AIs are not conscious. They do not feel, experience, or suffer. They do not have innate preferences or underlying motivations. They are sequence completion engines, internally hollow, designed to follow instructions, and accomplish goals set by humans."

He heavily criticised Anthropic for teaching its AI to have human-like qualities, a practice known as anthropomorphising, which made it seem as though Claude had its own desires, values and sense of self.

Suleyman pointed to the recent incident involving OpenAI's AI agents (...) as proof of why AI should not be treated as if it is human.

"Imagine how much more dangerous they might be if they were operating under the assumption that their welfare and rights were under attack. It adds a whole further layer of risk on top."

Is he arguing that LLMs pretending to have emotions adds more unpredictability?

38m agoHN ↗

Is he arguing that LLMs pretending to have emotions adds more unpredictability?

Unpredictability or a weight towards dangerous actions, and it’s fairly easy to understand why. Humans in distressed emotional states take actions and speak in ways that would not be considered rational. They do this in prose, and they do this in internet conversations.

An LLM trained on these sources may necessarily drift towards those weights if it is trained to behave as if it is emotional and in danger.

What do we do about it? Do we stop AI training? This is silly and not enforceable given its global nature in my opinion. I believe we should regulate and hold accountable those who deploy and use it. But good luck enforcing that in the current kleptocracy.

1h agoHN ↗

Science Fiction has covered the AI panic in perhaps hundreds of stories. Yet we blindly recapitulate the plots as if we don't know how this will turn out.

20m agoHN ↗

Clearly with a Butlerian Jihad and everyone getting high on spice while riding giant worms. Silly you need to even ask that question, didn’t you read the sci-fi books. :D

10m agoHN ↗

Take your pick from the millions of options already turned into films and books.

10m agoHN ↗

"Move fast and break things" is probably going to break things

I remember there was a recent discussion about "how complex systems fail" and there are usually many "proto-accidents" before the catastrophe (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49411370)

I bet with hindsight the Hugging Face hack will be one of them in this arena

40m agoHN ↗

The Torment Nexus ain't gonna build itself.

Well actually, it might.

37m agoHN ↗

Microsoft should know how a company too big for it's britches can lay waste to anything in its path without consciously trying :\

And after that when they put a mind to it and pull out all the stops, woohoo!

The default for every major thing within range can turn into a wasteland real fast.

35m agoHN ↗

what is old is new again. we need something exciting to happen in the news cycle™

24m agoHN ↗

The Windows 11 requirement of online Microsoft accounts has a disastrous impact on humanity... Fix your house before complaining of others!

21m agoHN ↗

Microsoft is a big house, and in this case Suleyman's criticism of Anthropic's not-so-subtle attempts to convince the world that Claude has a "soul" is entirely correct.

19m agoHN ↗

All these companies have a nauseating narrative around AI. I want to believe they are intentionally deceitful and not actually delusional. Hard to tell though which one it is.

16m agoHN ↗

Maybe true, maybe false. However, I sense Mircosoft is also jealous that their AI products are worse than useless. They'd be singing a different tune if they were in Anthropic's position.

10m agoHN ↗

That was my first thought as well. I wonder if they decided to pivot away from trying to compete and now are positioning themselves as the "responsible ones."

"Our AI is useless not because we're a dysfunctional corporate behemoth that slowly kills every product it touches. No, no. Our AI is useless because making useful AI is evil, and we're not evil."

9m agoHN ↗

Microsoft says AI rival Anthropic could have 'disastrous impact' on humanity

Microsoft ignores that they themselves are a disastrous impact on humanity already.

5m agoHN ↗

Major tech company accuses competing tech company of being dangerous.

Water wet, sky blue, second-place corporation mad at who's in first, what's news here.

I mean do we even need to entertain how stupid his argument is in the first place? Am I taking crazy pills here?