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Berlin-based Langdock moves its parent company from the US to Germany

46 pointsby 3h agoeuronews.com
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2h agoHN ↗

Maybe don't guess and read the article? European data sovereignty and CLOUD act.

1h agoHN ↗

But "European data sovereignty" is regulatory capture, although it sort of reads like they had a US parent company to attend y combinator and raise money, but are now moving fully to Berlin, which is what they intended from the start.

1h agoHN ↗

Isn't regulatory capture when a company shapes regulation to achieve business interests? How is this the case here?

1h agoHN ↗

Excluding foreign competitors is a classic ‘regulatory capture’-style approach. Regulatory capture is (typically) a ‘bootleggers and baptists’ scenario where there are both good and bad reasons to enact the rules.

1h agoHN ↗

But "European data sovereignty" is regulatory capture

This doesn't match my understanding of regulatory capture [0] - is there any evidence that this company specifically orchestrated the EU's data protection laws in order to benefit from by blocking out competitors? Would be unexpected, since laws like GDPR predate its founding.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

2h agoHN ↗

US laws, including the Cloud Act, have created concerns across the market that American authorities could seek access to customer data.

The CLOUD Act is becoming a bigger and bigger deal here in Europe. It definitely kills deals.

1h agoHN ↗

"Is the CLOUD Act only applicable to U.S. cloud service providers?"

"No. The CLOUD Act applies to all electronic communication service or remote computing service providers that operate or have a legal presence in the U.S. For example, the CLOUD Act is also applicable to a cloud service provider that is headquartered in the EU and has operations in the United State"

https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/cloud-act/

1h agoHN ↗

Seems intentionally misleading. While I agree exposure to US surveillance in non-US providers likely isn't zero, it's significantly harder for the US to do this internationally for legal, practical & political reasons. AWS is not a neutral voice on their competitor's limitations.

1h agoHN ↗

also applicable to a cloud service provider that is headquartered in the EU and has operations in the United State(sic)

As if any company isn't going to create a subsidiary for that.

1h agoHN ↗

Sovereign AI is going to be the next frontier. It’s apparent that all nations need to prepare themselves for possible challenges from foreign hyperscalers facing laws that are being rushed through to alleviate fear caused by fear mongers.

58m agoHN ↗

dont you mean laws being completed ignored by hyperscalers?

1h agoHN ↗

This is an amusing puff piece. I’m reading through it waiting for them to pull the other one.

54m agoHN ↗

It’s not surprising. With abrupt changes regarding tariffs, policies and AI in particular, US became increasingly unstable.

Perhaps trust could be regained if the country was renamed to Lower Canada by popular vote. I’m not sure anything else would help at this point.