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CCC invites all model citizens to 40C3

169 pointsby 7h agoevents.ccc.de
39 comments
2h agoHN ↗

    "27 to 30 December 2026"

I have always wanted to attend CCC in person, but these dates for the main conference only work if you are 20 and single...

2h agoHN ↗

Marry a hacker, and have hacker kids, problem solved :3

2h agoHN ↗

Its the perfect date for people who see all of their "real" family once per year, at CCC. Lots of couples attending obv.

1h agoHN ↗

Yeah, would be feasible if tickets wouldn't be so hard to get for externals. Ain't no way my partner would hang out for a year every week with me in a hackerspace

2h agoHN ↗

Go to the camp, that's in the summer time every .. 4? years.

2h agoHN ↗

21th/24th -> celebrating with family the winter solstice 25th -> visiting the extended family 26th -> visiting friends

27-30th -> congress \o/

31th -> celebrating a new year either close to the congress or with family again

Works very well for very long time. Plenty of families with kids on the congress too and you always have holidays at that time.

Im not single and i'm not 20...

2h agoHN ↗

A lot of people spend more than 1 or 2 days visiting family during Christmas time, and travel long distances to do so.

2h agoHN ↗

Perhaps and thats wonderful for these people but stating that only 20 and single can go to the congress is as generic as my response.

The congress was always booked out, its not that the congress has any attendance issues and its not that OP never had the chance to visit and never will have the chance to visit when his/her kids get older.

Btw. i travel too to my family

2h agoHN ↗

Yeah, works if you're 2h away from the venue.

1h agoHN ↗

Im away 6h from the venue and 3h from my family.

Come on...

16m agoHN ↗

That's already hectic and stressfull without the congress part, especially if any of the preparatinon for those meetups falls to you.

1h agoHN ↗

I actually know several people who regularly visit the 3C with their families and children. There are a lot of cool activities for kids from a certain age (10-ish). Even without all the social programm, there are plenty of talks which are interesting to non-IT people.

35m agoHN ↗

45, married and traveling from America to go to my first CCC

24m agoHN ↗

Many people who go enjoy the opportunity to get away from family

2h agoHN ↗

In the past it was "The Usual Suspects", now it is "Model Citizens". Back then smoking indoors at conferences was a topic hackers would discuss. Now I'm sure it will be a very serious conference full of grown-ups.

Will not be able to attend this year :'-) Have to ask friends to get me a "Model Citizen" shirt!

2h agoHN ↗

I have been to a couple of CCC events in my late teens'ish. Around 26C3.

Over all can recommend, at least as a groups. I used it to meet some online friends for the frist time. Wifi / wardriving nerds that I spend a lot of time with online.

But man, I think I have never been at a place with so many small negative experience with other people. Death by a thousand paper cuts. One older man out of nowhere loudly proclaimed I was Anti-semetic, because I was wearing a Palestinian keffiyeh. When sitting in the cellar in the "hacking area", friends of mine and me where coding on kismet or aircrack-ng, when someone from the neighboring desk asked what we where doing. After I told him he only lifted his nose slightly and with a smug smile said "Oh, that's what you call hacking today?"

At one camp, where there even was an event on photography, someone I met almost went into a rage every time he saw a camera. Not pointed at him, just someone with a camera. Off he went to tell the camera owner about how it was last camp and his opinion ..

Everything just minor interaction. But as a whole it's just not people I want to hang around with any more.

1h agoHN ↗

That's just Germany for ya. Source: Am German

1h agoHN ↗

As an Austrian, I agree with this German :-)

1h agoHN ↗

Are the Dutch meet-ups better? Wanted to get to why2025 but couldn’t.

1h agoHN ↗

A shame, as a Spaniard my German boss always said that I was more German than him...never sure as to take it flattering or otherwise.

Of course he said if I was to be a German I would be from Berlin....apparently those folks can make a public budget work.

This was around the financial crisis. Not this one upcoming, the last one.

1h agoHN ↗

someone I met almost went into a rage every time he saw a camera.

The rage may be too much but the taboo on taking photo that is real and cultural normal that will be enforced or made to feel embarrassed for doing (i.e. 'lets not be the stasi'). That's the cultural norm of there and that scene. You visited from the states, correct? Bay area but the guess "small negative experience" - the idea of we are going around experiencing things and our life is a product of these experiences we consume and interpersonal politics - that's very california "the personal is the political" or that it's some how a consumption experience we "have" and who we "are" is coloured by these "experiences" etc (a fish in the water "what is water?")

One thing in German culture I very appreciate (as australian) is the "polite complaining" as in - you know a German cares if they will share with you what is wrong (and then they will have solution) as Australian we just complain about the big things (but never on your mates or people on your level) hehe "the government" etc - German - politely complain (and here's the patch) etc hehe In both cases it's a sort of affection or closeness if they tell you what they really think

it's not seen negative it's seen like 'of course we have feelings good and bad' etc

All generalising of course.

This could I see easily clash with american culture where often it's positivity all the time and it's seen taboo to say something bad - as if it's letting down the 'team' or it must be personal again 'you' or something - where as kinda truthfulness and integrity seen as the thing there - say as it is or as feel etc

Also another thing you might notice (probably less in Hamburg but in Berlin or something) in winter you want to go for a swim - that's the spa. Everyone is naked. This can come a shock to, say, a culture like the US that had the puritans - that people being naked is not sexualised any way. Actually the US because the norm is "naked" = "naked fun" that can lead to perhaps the most confusing cultural mishap. This might be related to photos also. For instance - in Australia it's increasingly less common people sunbath naked. In east europe and nordics - being naked in spa is just common.

Also: new years eve - they try to blow up everything. In a civilised city it blew my mind to see folks firing guns in the air.

Yes! There's some differences.

Saying that: there's assholes everywhere and don't let the 5-20% allocation of asshole influence your opinion of the 80% of the cool calm quiet

Hmmm... this comment is long... I may be the asshole. Ok,

Ciao

1h agoHN ↗

taboo on taking photo

Do Germans complain/rage every time they see a security camera?

45m agoHN ↗

Wasn't Germany the original country that forced google maps to censor all houses unless they opt-IN? And faces, and driving plates.

I think they are quite privacy conscious, as a country.

40m agoHN ↗

And quite averse/backwater (choose your version) on using debit/credit cards. Which is mindblowing from my Easter European perspective. I didn't use cash in a decade.

18m agoHN ↗

Unfortunately that's much less the case since COVID. Not looking forward to have more and more placed that only take panopticon-payments.

42m agoHN ↗

See how StreetView looks like there (or looked), they have trouble being photographed.

25m agoHN ↗

They don't see security cameras because there are very, very few in Germany and the few that exist are in train stations, or private areas like INSIDE a business, or INSIDE a private estate, pointing inwards since they're seldom allowed to film outwards

25m agoHN ↗

Bay area but the guess "small negative experience" - the idea of we are going around experiencing things and our life is a product of these experiences we consume and interpersonal politics - that's very california "the personal is the political" or that it's some how a consumption experience we "have" and who we "are" is coloured by these "experiences" etc (a fish in the water "what is water?")

you might be giving them another small negative experience. you've certainly given me one.

13m agoHN ↗

If people feel obligated to be spazzy around cameras why would they go near an event on photography...

15m agoHN ↗

I was walking about 34c3 with an old medium format folding camera and mainly got nice comments. I did try to avoid getting people in shots though.

1h agoHN ↗

Hacker conference: against authoritarian government, with talk about security, privacy, opsec etc.

Also: can only buy ticket online with credit card and real name, no onsite sell available, your name is probably give to conference administrator for checking ticket, he will probably give it to third parties or keep it for "good reasons", etc.

Don't get me wrong, I like the talks, they are very good. It is just a bit funny for me. They can't try harder to be hackers? Or is it like this in germany always?

1h agoHN ↗

The organisation has to still pay their suppliers, and have to comply with anti money laundering laws

1h agoHN ↗

Go to the local smaller CCC conferences, where you can pay with things like GNU Taler or cryptocurrency, and the entry is often free anyway, with a donation being appreciated or buying event merch being a nice alternative to simply donating.

I think the hacker spirit is definitely alive & kicking in those smaller CCC events.

1h agoHN ↗

If you live in Germany and would like to experience this on a smaller scale THIS WEEKEND, come to the CCC conference in Dresden, called Datenspuren, run by our local CCC Erfa-Kreis C3D2. It takes place from 18.09 - 20.09 in Zentralwerk Dresden.

It is a beautiful and inclusive environment that highlights not only a lot local hackers, but also a lot of artists.

I was there last year and it was amazing! I totally recommend it.

You can find more info about the event and the featured talks and events here:

https://talks.datenspuren.de/ds26/talk/

https://datenspuren.de/2026/#start

1h agoHN ↗

I heard security failed to treat someone correctly after an attempted robbery, tbh put me off CCC. Not trying to be negative just hope they address this I was kinda taken aback.

EDIT > Instead of downvoting me you could defend yourself or ask for clarification I have no agenda

19m agoHN ↗

Holy moly people feel entitled about joining a volunteer run (even things like health and security) organization.