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Ask HN: What happens when Claude Code goes away?

2 pointsby 3h ago
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I have become very proficient with Claude Code and I use it for everything, both at work and in my personal life. At this point, if I lost access to it, it would be like missing a body part. At the risk of hyperbole, it makes me a better person. I am more effective in everything I do. Someday it will probably go away. I haven't had great success making Claude Code work with local Ollama/Quen.
3h agoHN ↗

Someday it will probably go away.

It won't. There are dumps of the early Claude Code codebase/repo and it can be rebuilt from scratch by the community.

You might lose access to Anthropic's models one day, but there are hundreds of alternative model choices.

2h agoHN ↗

The model and the harness go hand in hand, in my opinion; other models aren't interchangeable here for quality results.

1h agoHN ↗

I disagree. I abandoned Claude during Opus 4.8 for GLM 5, it was a flat upgrade for my work. I can't imagine going back to Claude and dealing with refusals or silent model degradation.

25m agoHN ↗

This is what I'm referring to - the seamless integration - "it just works".

3h agoHN ↗

You mean the model not the harness right

26m agoHN ↗

No - Here is what I mean. When I use Claude Code locally with Ollama/Quen, it can do the work just fine - like creating a script - but it just outputs it, rather than placing it into a file. So far I can't convince it to actually WRITE to a file. With Claude Code, it just works. Recursing around the file system, it just does it. I can't get that working locally.

3m agoHN ↗

The feature you're describing is called "tool calling" in harness parlance. It's not Anthropic-exclusive, it's probably broken on your local models because you misconfigured Ollama (or it misconfigured itself; Ollama isn't a great inference server).

2h agoHN ↗

Yeah, I know how you feel. When my tokens run out doing work, I bounce to YouTube until I'm recharged. Claude, like prostitution, drugs, and gambling, will never go away. That's not how markets work.

2h agoHN ↗

bliss, that is what happens when it goes away.

2h agoHN ↗

All bleeding stops.

If Ed Zitron is to be believed, Anthropic, and all the other LLM based tools companies are bleeding cash at one of the highest burn rates in history, subsidizing your tools, and likely giving them to you at around 5-10% of their costs. Even if you're prepared to pay 10x or more for the same thing, most aren't, and they don't have a sustainable future.

Your best bet is to develop a local capability on your own hardware while you've still got Claude to compare it to.

Second best is to have an LLM model and harness you can run in the cloud independent of Anthropic or any other AI company.

1h agoHN ↗

Losing access to Claude Code - just imagine it. That's really the main reason people push for local open-source models. If you build everything around a closed cloud API, you're basicly staking your whole career on someone else's rules. Anthropic can change prices or shut down your account anytime, and suddenly, your productivity takes a nosedive. There's only one way out: leran to run your own setup. Right now, getting Claude Code to work well alongside Ollama or Qwen is tough. Context management and system instructions are tricky. But honestly, it's our only real safety net. If you can fire up quantized Qwen 2.5 coder model on your own machine, you control your workflow. Sure, it might not be as fast as Sonnet, but there's no kill-switch, no subscriptions, and no strings attached. Think of AI tools like servers: if you can't self-host a backup, you don't really own your workflow. I worked with a friend on a local AI-Agent that can code, that can talk with you about anything and can control your whole computer, even spotify it can easily search on spotify or you can say "open zapzap" or "open whatsapp" it looks for apps on your computer if nothing found with the name it opens the browser and google if you say "open youtube" it opens the browser with https://www.youtube.com. of course you can say it with your voice what you want, so you haven't write it to it per keyboard if your busy. if you wanna try just write a response here and I talk to my friend if I can make it open source. Sorry for self-promoten here but it's something about the topic. if you have a problem with the self-promoten just write a reply and I'll remove this comment.