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Agreement between the USA and Denmark (1951,2004) [pdf]

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33m agoHN ↗

I get that this is posted to show that the "Art of the deal" has produced little novelties in the recent US-Denmark agreement:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o

It does have the novelty that even under independence the US will continue to operate the bases. I'm not sure if Denmark thinks this is a poison pill for any independence movement.

The Golden Dome bases in Greenland are such a stupid pretext:

1) Russia has the Sarmat missile that flies over the South Pole and completely evades all northern installations.

2) Russia has the Poseidon nuclear torpedo that threatens the vast coastal areas of the US and is immune all that as well.

18m agoHN ↗

Also Trump seems to be allied with Russia. They got him elected and paid for his son's wedding and so on. He withdrew all support for Ukraine, and has put tariffs on practically every country except Russia.

17m agoHN ↗

Also, the previous deal didn’t let the U.S. expand its military presence without Denmark approval. And it was contingent on the North Atlantic Treaty. The new deal is permanent.

I dont know why people think this isnt more permissive for the US.

8m agoHN ↗

Notice how in the current war in Europe Russia is not using ICBMs or nuclear torpedoes, and the bulk of the damage is dealt by vast numbers of small, cheap, subsonic drones, and a few medium-range missiles (some made by North Korea, of all places).

Losing the ability to watch and intercept "obsolete" weapons is quite risky. In 1960s, some cool newest-generation supersonic jet fighters got rid of cannons, because rockets felt so much more efficient. Using them in actual warfare quickly showed that rockets are not perfect, and expensive; you can run out of them, and become helpless.

11m agoHN ↗

The US has been in Greenland, and have had complete military control with it, for many decades. Doing its time there it has conducted a number of activities with very little regard for the people living there or the broader environment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash

(Accidental crash causing the (non-nuclear) explosion of 3 hydrogen bombs and the loss of a 4th.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm

(A network of mobile nuclear missile launch sites under the Greenland ice sheet.)

However after the cold war US activity there has been cut to a single base with just over 100 men.

So with the re-newed interest and a willigness to seriously mess up the NATO alliance - what does the US want in Greenland this time around?

Minerals, data centers, launch rockets into space, prepare for climate change, maybe something with the northern sea route?

It is very unclear.

6m agoHN ↗

US activities in Greenland have always been about strategic defense.

This latest enterprise likely has to do with a strategic missile defense system.