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Apple iPhone 18 Pro Camera test

16 pointsby 15h agodxomark.com
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15h agoHN ↗

Interesting to see what they got out of basically the same camera sensor. It seems largely just like way better denoising capabilities. Maybe that is why they needed the extra NPU in the A20 chip.

But even with that they are still behind Android phones, while they dominated some years ago

14h agoHN ↗

until the "denoiser" starts to hallucinate

45m agoHN ↗

At least it doesn't detect moon shaped objects and impose a static image of the moon on top of it

34m agoHN ↗

But even with that they are still behind Android phones, while they dominated some years ago

Flagship Android and iOS device cameras have been 1a/1b for awhile. It's video where Apple dominated. Did Android make some huge strides in video lately?

22m agoHN ↗

Anecdotically, my current OPPO find x9 mops the floor with my previous iphone 16 pro in photography in practice. The 1-1 with apple only seems to be there for Google and Samsung, but the Chinese flagships are a step up.

For video I think the iphone hasn't been dethroned yet.

15h agoHN ↗

it tells something that the word "aperture" is only mentioned 3 times in the test

39m agoHN ↗

What are you inferring from that? Interested to hear.

20m agoHN ↗

I assume they're implying the new variable aperture on the 18 Pro is more of a marketing/spec sheet thing than an actual meaningful feature

36m agoHN ↗

The Huawei model just uses AI based upscaling and filtering which is why the images look so sharp when zoomed in, that's not depicting reality though... You can also zoom into the moon on the night sky with these cameras and easily "resolve" details that are optically impossible to resolve with the camera lens as they are beyond the Abbe limit. At the very least they should compare RAW data in these posts, not the AI scaled slop most of these cameras produce nowadays.

24m agoHN ↗

Is that true though? It seems like the iphones are doing some type of skin smoothing algorithm but the Huawei is the only one that actually seems to produce actual skin texture and blemishes. My initial read was that the Huawei was the least processed of the bunch.

22m agoHN ↗

The Huawei phone has five rear cameras.

19m agoHN ↗

Ooh that's fun bokeh, it's like the doughnut bokeh from a mirror lens. Combined with the various computational tweaks made to the images that's a pretty bizarre effect, looks like micro motion blur at a distance and properly weird when zoomed in.

6m agoHN ↗

That is from the normal (24mm) camera slightly stopped down, judging by the EXIF.

Odd bokeh was one of the risks of adding a mechanical aperture; bokeh is very often weirdest at the first or second down from open.

I would hope that the telephoto lens does not show this so severely (because it has a fixed round aperture) but all mobile phone lenses in my experience have had a tendency towards a sort of concentric-ringed, quasi-soap-bubble bokeh; it's a common part of the challenge of really tiny optics (that you either like or dislike). So it's not too surprising to see the aperture do this on top of that.

8m agoHN ↗

Some people’s faces just naturally look like that. Probably depends on the cosmetics applied.

21m agoHN ↗

How does it compare to the Samsung flagship phone cameras? I have to say I was impressed by the Samsung cameras, although being Android based it's not really an option for me. It'd be like trading a Porsche 911 for a Pontiac Aztec.

18m agoHN ↗

That’s harsh - the Aztek was not that bad …

5m agoHN ↗

Like trading something flashy, fast and impractical for something ugly and practical (idk if Azteks were fast but I suspect not notably so). I don’t know if it works for the camera phone comparison.

18m agoHN ↗

Is it just me or in their initial photo the focus point is in a wildly different point. On the iphone it's prioritizing the foreground model, on the Huawei the background. Definitely noticeable based on hair, although the Huawei seems to oversharpen the face with iPhone doing a bit of the opposite.

11m agoHN ↗

A little hard to interpret as the Huawei pictures are not cropped to the same frame. When zooming in the difference is less striking.