I'm constantly seeing posts about how "AI is already better than humans", "programmers are useless" "everything can be vibe-coded by someone with 0 technical experience".
Is everyone online just that bad at programming? I didn't believe software could get any worse than what was already being put out, but since the adoption of AI I have been proven wrong. Every vibe-coded software I've used has been ass, but these people swear that it's the best thing ever. Where are they coming from?
Yes. You need to hold its hand for it to produce anything good, and at that point I'd rather write it myself. It's useful for reviewing snippets, but just letting it loose on your codebase results in shit like windows 11, or 99% of websites made in the last year.
AI is better than 99% of humans at coding. On the other hand, 99% of all humans don't code, at least not as a genuine skill. So the AI coding doomers are deeply concerned that all those people who didn't want to code in the first place, will stop coding. It's philanthropic.
This is just my personal opinion, but I think when a lot of people type a prompt for an app they want made and see the finished UI of it, they might think to themselves that "programmers are useless". But what they don't see or understand is the architecture of the app. They don't know what runs what. From redundant code to logic flaws and serious race conditions, AI won't really care. As long as it "works" and it compiles, then you have an app.
Is everyone online just that bad at programming? I didn't believe software could get any worse than what was already being put out, but since the adoption of AI I have been proven wrong. Every vibe-coded software I've used has been ass, but these people swear that it's the best thing ever. Where are they coming from?
Have you used it seriously?
Yes. You need to hold its hand for it to produce anything good, and at that point I'd rather write it myself. It's useful for reviewing snippets, but just letting it loose on your codebase results in shit like windows 11, or 99% of websites made in the last year.
AI is better than 99% of humans at coding. On the other hand, 99% of all humans don't code, at least not as a genuine skill. So the AI coding doomers are deeply concerned that all those people who didn't want to code in the first place, will stop coding. It's philanthropic.
It’s the speed of writing the code that is essentially removing the need for traditional software developers.
When there’s inevitably a bug, Claude and Codex act possessed until they find it and fix it; usually well within 15 minutes with the right prompt.
This is just my personal opinion, but I think when a lot of people type a prompt for an app they want made and see the finished UI of it, they might think to themselves that "programmers are useless". But what they don't see or understand is the architecture of the app. They don't know what runs what. From redundant code to logic flaws and serious race conditions, AI won't really care. As long as it "works" and it compiles, then you have an app.
Passing back and forth between different models to review the code is good for removing any junk or loose ends.
I realise a competent developer is going to do a much better job, but it’s not like the old days when every kilobyte of poorly written code counted.
hype cycle and dysfunctional media, there are more rational takes out their
I recently discovered Frag, more nuance, less hyperbolics, some perspectives I've not heard elsewhere yet
https://www.youtube.com/@DataScienceatHome
No, but the good programmers are hugely outnumbered by people whose skills are poor enough to be exceeded by a chatbot.
It is the best thing ever produced by them.