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The science of Monkey Island: can grog dissolve a metal mug that fast?

114 pointsby 1d agojgeekstudies.org
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3h agoHN ↗

Monkey Island is the best adventure game.

3h agoHN ↗

I agree! My friend and I have the fondest memories of that game in particular since we played it for months on the Amiga 500 at the time. Meathook was my hero. We both have this inner memory of 4k photorealistic graphics which doesn't match the reality of the 90s game.

2h agoHN ↗

I would also add Kings Quest V (and only V!),also Ultima 7, and some others in that ballpark :-)

2h agoHN ↗

After first playing Ultima 7 in middle school in the 1990s, I finally finished the whole game a few months back, and was astounded by how good it is. I would love to see a modern take on it with expanded crafting mechanics. the way crafting works is amazingly fun and immersive, there is just a very limited amount of it. the same for the way NPCs actually live out their lives and work. better than most (all?) modern games.

2h agoHN ↗

Id say the genre got out of traction, so there is no real "U7 feeling" anymore

2h agoHN ↗

Grim Fandango is arguably in the running for the title too.

1h agoHN ↗

Those tank controls are not great, and going to 3D made the graphics noticeably worse. It would have been a better game had it stayed 2D but with the same story. A lot of early 3D has aged poorly.

1h agoHN ↗

Yes the first 3 games are really good. But I also have a soft spot for Myst. Maybe it is nostalgia, but I really enjoyed replaying it from the original CD of the Mac release a few years ago (using my original iBook, which is slightly later vintage than the game of course).

1h agoHN ↗

I hope Ron Gilbert has more stories he wants to tell that aren't meta-reflections on adventure games as a form.

Thimbleweed Park was fine—not what I was hoping for, but fine. When I saw Return to Monkey Island was more of that—while I appreciate taking that tack as a way to sort of give closure to the second game and also the rest of the series, sort of—I decided it wasn't for me.

Now a second Thimbleweed Park has been announced, and I expect it to be more of the same sort of thing, which is kind of a bummer? Deconstruction is fun, but it's better when it leads to reconstruction thereafter. I would love to see Gilbert tackle a genuine adventure game again, without all of (or at least, with less of) the navel-gazing postmodernism—just to prove the genre and creator both still have the capacity for genuinely good works that stand on their own. Am I the only one?

1h agoHN ↗

I hadn't replayed it all the way through as an adult, not from start to finish.

So I sat down, had a couple beers and played it all the way from the beginning.

It's exquisite, but short. A lot of care went into that journey though.

44m agoHN ↗

If you mean point and click game, I liked Sam & Max hit the road more

3h agoHN ↗

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, what color is the tree?

3h agoHN ↗

Uhh... How appropriate... you fight like a cow.

3h agoHN ↗

If the grog contained enough mercury, it would dissolve the pewter mug. Mercury also eats thru solid aluminum pretty quickly.

2h agoHN ↗

True, but mercury does not dissolve the iron of the lock. For that, the sulfuric acid is necessary.

If grog would contain both mercury and acid, they would not mix, but there will be a mercury layer at the bottom and the acid solution would stay at the top. So the mercury could dissolve the bottom of the mug, while pouring some acid from the top could dissolve the iron lock.

The fact that iron is among the few metals which are not dissolved by mercury had been widely used in the past, when the use of mercury was less restricted. For example, ignitrons and mercury arc rectifiers, which were used in high power converters before the invention of thyristors, contained a pool of liquid mercury, so for them iron vessels were preferred instead of fragile glass vessels, like those used in smaller vacuum tubes.

In the Roman and Greek Antiquity, the most important use of mercury was for the dissolution of gold and silver, which was used for their purification and in the fabrication of jewelry.

2h agoHN ↗

This is what the so-called Frontier is all about.

These models sure are put to good use.

2h agoHN ↗

In MI1, the only annoying part was that "wood forest path" thingy in the beginning (when being in the village), and later on the world wasnt pretty anymore when being on Le Chucks Island

2h agoHN ↗

Clearly, it only works in-game because SCUMM, the mysterious ingredient, is installed alongside the game. :-)

1h agoHN ↗

we use the apparent rate of mug deterioration to estimate the proton supply required by a simplified corrosion model

Damn I love HN.

1h agoHN ↗

There should be a name for this phenomenon: geeking out about an overly literal interpretation of how a technical topic is presented, made by an artist/creator a long time ago who likely didn't intend to satisfy such a literal understanding.

It's like retconning... retgeeking?