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Awesome! I believe NixOS is perfect for systems you just want to work and track reproducibly, like appliances (which a lot of server software is supposed to be). I’m glad people smarter than me are actually able to realize its advantages =)
In the same space, also check out openDesk initiated by the German Government (https://www.opendesk.eu/en) and La Suite by the French one (https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/).
AFAIK, there has been some collaboration with the German government on La Suite, not sure about the others.
This realy would be a great way to foster collaboration within the EU. To create an own independant Ecosystem outside of the microsoft world.
For a second I was worried that the actual code behind this was dead in the water ("3 months ago") but it's just one more click away:
https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO-NixOS
A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].
[1] https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
Their instance is self hosted right, so this doesn't apply I think.
And Codeberg also blocks real people from accessing it, for who knows what reason. I just get "Access denied." with no more info.
But they do let me visit blog.codeberg.org
Had that issue with HTTP accessed repo, switching to SSH solved it for me.
Is it on Codeberg? I looked self-hosted to me.
https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO-NixOS says:
Does this mean European governments have or will have an alternative(s) to GitHub as well?
Fair note, but I'd avoid the cheap shot "more open". You'll just bring up the old flame wars about whether the MIT-style or GNU-style licenses are more open.
The same applies here, is it really "more open" to allow corporations to profit by removing the openness of your work?
Point taken, trimmed that. I do take issue with their position but not the place to start a new discussion.
It’d make the most sense for the Dutch government (or DAWO) to have their own Forgejo instance if the goal is data sovereignty.
edit: looks like this was originally the case and then they moved?
clearly shows the need for federated forges, where you get to decide on your own rules but you still benefit from interacting with a broader set of collaborators.
Yeah, waiting for this too, feels like the final piece of the puzzle. Tracking issue from Codeberg + more general information about the effort around the the ecosystem:
- https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59 ("[FEAT] implement federation")
- https://forgefed.org/
That's a recipe for drama as shown with mastodon when they got publicity few years ago
Codeberg are going to have issues in the future when all code is AI generated (except for artisanal code of course, written for the love of the craft but not to achieve anything of merit).
Assuming writing code by hand is slower (which I agree with), why can't it still have merit compared to code written via llm harness?
Did you actually read through that post you linked? You realize not every project that was ever touched by a LLM is being thrown off? Read the "Some early, but informal guidelines" particularly, as you've seemingly missed that.
They're targeting slop and essentially spam, not everything that could possibly have been built by LLMs.
Not OP, but I stand corrected. Thought it was 100% no generated code. Now I know better, thanks! Looks like codeberg aren't as mad as I thought.
Quotes:
Yes, it's fuzzy, and that is a problem - "likely to be tolerated" is not a very reassuring policy, especially if you will be having the entire government depend on the platform.
Personally, the refusal on "Projects heavily tied to the LLM ecosystem, e.g. LLM-written tools to ease LLM usage" is enough reason to move out.
Codeberg is trying to solve the right problem with the wrong solution. But hey, it's democratic!
This is great, would love to understand why Nix over Lix or Guix.
Site doesn't work for me.
www.dawo.community took too long to respond.
Are you in the US? Hehe
Nixpkgs should reduce package count. Waiting 2 days for unbound CVE patch merge is unbearable.
What is it that they need/add above NixOS defaults?
Any move away from the abusive big tech that exists in USA is a good move in my book. Microsoft just recently made a new patent where they will monitor you via camera and microphone to block your program/game to show you ads, and per ads viewed, you then earn credit to be able to use your program/game. It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation can be so toxic and abusive to its users and still be in business.
Black Mirror has unwittingly been offering a lot of nice, horrible ideas.
To save anyone else I asked Claude
"NixOS is a Linux distribution where your whole system is defined in one configuration file."
I didn't get that from looking at their website...
NixOS is also unnecessarily complicated and it's easy for someone that doesn't want to read 1000 pages of documentation to brick your system.
Probably has its uses, tried it twice myself and both times were a lot of struggling.
For me even Arch was easier to configure than Nix.
The history of the Netherlands is all about making things unnecessarily complicated.
When lesser nations rally around the flag and elect dictators we have meetings and consultations.
Each nixos rebuild creates a snapshot. While I also eventually moved off of nixos, I've yet to get a system that was as stable as it.
https://meatproxy.me/
Hopefully the config is a little more descriptive than their README.md