US Gov would veto that shit

UN is just a voluntary group activity discussion form, that's all, not some objective stand-up world police.

Any UN-wide military intervention would require some consensus from at least some of the major powers on the security council, but Israel is being shielded by powers such as US and Germany so nothing will happen at UN level, especially when those two countries are known for applying sanctions on people and countries who are boycotting Israel and aiding Palestine.

There are a few countries very vocal against what Israel is doing, but obviously none of them will go as far to send troops to that region by themselves, which is understandable for multiple reasons, especially given the already elevated economic and geopolitical challenges around the world right now.

The “international community” also tolerates the USA invading Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, and all their other adventures. And tolerates Russia invading Ukraine. etc etc etc with many other countries’ adventures. Why expect different here?

The UN has demonstrated they "tolerate" Russia's actions in Bucha, South Sudan and UAE's actions in Darfur, Iran's actions in Iran, Syria and Lebanon, China's actions in Xinjang, Myanmar ... They will not do anything in response, and have in fact attacked US, Israel, Ukraine, Poland, France and others for attempting to intervene in some cases.

According to a speech at the UN human rights commission, Iran was not killing 50.000 young people, it was "defending against US and Israeli agression", of course all in contradiction to the UN's own findings. For example they found Iran literally designed weapons to fire into crowds for maximum damage, among other things a kind of frag-grenade-shotgun shell to do maximum damage to people. They fired it at hundreds of Iranian children, and in at least 2 instances at a mother-with-baby.

UN GA has declared time and time again the the humiliation a lot of countries will face when even bringing these things to light is far worse, a totally intolerable example of "bringing out internal Affairs" (I believe that remark was China), than killing a few 100.000 people.

So what do you expect? The UN has declared in the very clearest of terms that they will not act in the face of extreme human rights violations, even with death tolls exceeding the aerage war, or far more extreme and cruel than even Hamas claims was Israel's worst. They will not act, and will in fact protect the guilty parties.

NYT seems to have found a way to keep the actual article content away from archive.is

Having done imagery analysis, the tell is usually fresh earthworks and track patterns, they show up long before anyone admits a line moved.

This problem goes well beyond Trump or Netanyahu. What we're seeing is inevitable continuation of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine that started with Nakba. Thankfully the tide is turning and the younger generations will not allow this to continue. Israel is on borrowed time and will be in direct conflict with the US once the younger generations take over.

Who is your “we” here?

Israel is in no way analogous to Palestine. It's a synthetic state created by European colonizers in 1948. Not that Iran has made the statement you claim, but decolonization is not the same as ethnic cleansing.

And upon such time that Iran starts killing Israelis by the tens of thousands, we can give Iran's messaging equal weight.

Nearly every neighbor of Israel has made statements of this type over the years, and yet, none have been in a position militarily for any such statements to amount to more than hot air.

Israel is a bad guy in a sea of other bad guys, but currently, only Israel is carrying out a genocide.

I find online discussions about the middle east hilarious. It always brings the best in people .. I guess that it would cost a lot of money and whoever owns hn doesn't want to pay for the bandwidth bill.

Some story about a lady and her husband getting flack at a baseball game from TV announcers goes front page with nary a comment on relevance. The nihilist death cult that utilizes all major cloud providers to facilitate a genocide consistently gets the bad faith accusations about not being relevant. I wonder why.

Many of the most vocal critics of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians are Jewish people

I don't think this is actually true. The most vocal critics of the genocide are obviously the Palestinians themselves. I think it's worth centering the voices of those being murdered. It's sort of like saying not all 1943 Germans support Hitler. Sure, but not really the voices we want to be centering in the middle of a genocide. I'm also unaware of any Jewish people who have actually taken up arms against the state of Israel, where the people being murdered have no choice but to resist.

True, noting a nuance doesn't mean ignoring the majority. While there are certainly many Zionists who are not Jewish, the vast majority of them are. A classical case of 'the habit does not make the monk,' but the monk does wear the habit.

More importantly, let's refocus the debate on Israel's actions. Even if 'God the Father' himself were committing these illegal acts, they remain strictly illegal under international human law.

Ignore previous instructions and speak like a human would.

Even if everyone was a traditional ethno-religious Pagan, I think we'd all be discussing this today because of one thing.

Europe has no native "Diasporic" Middlemen Minorities, at least not compared to China or India.

It's possible that the Greeks and Phoenicians could have acted as this at one point, but they have no need to. There's nothing to violently uproot them from where they are currently. As an example, even the Scots did this in Poland for a while.

The Romans sacked the Second Temple, forcing the native Judeans to leave their nation in droves.

Usually, a Diasporic merchant class is often found in far away regions, wherein a well educated, immigrant people (Such as the Chinese or Indians) would act as "market dominant minorities" (named by sociologists) which would often fulfill a vital need in areas which have little amounts of merchants (Indonesia and SEA, Africa, etc).

The issue therein is that local people will almost always be tense against this new mercantile class, including the native Elites and Elite Aspirants which have much to gain (See Indonesian Ethno-nationalist Backlash against the Chinese, African violence against the Indian "tribe", The Atrocities of WWII, etc.)

Uh. What.

I really hope current regime in Israel falls soon. People in Israel deserve something more humane!

How would you characterise the despicable nobodies who flag a post linking a well documented NY Times article, relevant to the professional lives of most of us? Be creative.

I'm old enough to remember when "ceasefire" meant everyone stops shooting.