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Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows AI vision, surging costs

30 pointsby 47m agoreuters.com
16 comments
36m agoHN ↗

2 things can be true:

-LLMs profoundly change society -The LLM business is mangled in terms of ROIC vs CoC

Such a business already exists - airlines.

This nuance is what many here refuse/find difficult to understand.

8m agoHN ↗

Well said, the technology can be transformative while being structurally challenging to build a viable business around.

18m agoHN ↗

Anthropic said nearly a quarter of its revenue came from two customers last year, and as part of its risk factors, warned that many of its largest clients were not locked into long-term contracts and could cut or stop spending.

2m agoHN ↗

Is it possible those are cloud providers? Someone using Claude on google vertex might just switch to Claude on AWS or Anthropic. Also I don’t imagine cloud providers suddenly cutting the cord.

1m agoHN ↗

One of those customers is the US government, I wonder who the other one is

16m agoHN ↗

is the prospectus public yet? its not linked in the article afaict.

2m agoHN ↗

“ … according to its IPO prospectus seen by Reuters.”

13m agoHN ↗

Some of these numbers are crazy. The scale of them is hard to comprehend.

- $42 billion net loss in 2025

- $518 billion in infrastructure obligations in the next year

- 1/4 of revenue coming from 2 customers

12m agoHN ↗

Sure, but their revenue growth numbers are also crazy.

1m agoHN ↗

Here's another amazing trick for revenue growth: buy items on Amazon and then sell them on your website for half the price.

Revenue growth means nothing if you don't have a viable business plan.

5m agoHN ↗

does anyone understand what this part actually means?

"The near-$42 billion net loss included a roughly $34 billion accounting charge that reflected an increase in the estimated value of financing that could eventually turn into Anthropic shares, rather than money the company spent running its business."

3m agoHN ↗

I guess those 2 customers must be state actors as one of them must be spending at least 12B$ ?

3m agoHN ↗

Not $518B in the next year, they plan "to spend $518 billion on cloud, computing and infrastructure obligations in coming years" (number of years unspecified)

2m agoHN ↗

I feel like we can't really evaluate them until we see a fairly detailed breakdown that shows inference margin, training costs and non-compute R&D

4m agoHN ↗

i'm curious what the two customers were