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Firebase SDK is CRASHING ALLLL iOS Apps, since today morning

37 pointsby 1h agotwitter.com
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49m agoHN ↗

Resolved, but can still affect customers for up to 4 hours...

So many problems here, and no signs of an updated SDK that behaves properly on malformed input.

33m agoHN ↗

I was wondering why random apps kept crashing today. Good to know.

27m agoHN ↗

But this is completely not acceptable from the Google

28m agoHN ↗

Ugh.

That's the dark side of these types of dependencies.

But they provide a great deal of utility, so I can understand the attraction.

26m agoHN ↗

I'm hearing an awful lot of "How could they do this to us?" and not a lot of "Wow, maybe we should have read some of this 3rd party code we bundled into 'ALLLL' of our apps"

Just an ignorant and naive outsider's take, but to me it paints a pretty damning picture of the state of mobile development.

24m agoHN ↗

Mobile and frontend development, both, now-a-days contain way way way more dependencies than they should.

2m agoHN ↗

maybe we should have read some of this 3rd party code we bundled

Not really practical though, if you push the thought to its limit. That 3rd party code is literally everything that's not written by you, from firmware to the launch UI. And if you don't push the thought to the limit then there's always that risk leading to the same "maybe we should've read X" if something happens in X. Trusting that others will be good stewards of all that 3rd party stuff is a hard requirement for making progress.

25m agoHN ↗

I remember first learning about Firebase when working on Android push notifications, a loooooong time ago (~2011 i think). Over time it grew into this full-featured app development platform, after an aquisition (don’t remember the name).

These days however it feels a bit neglected, and somehow poorly bolted on to GCP. I still have a few production apps running on it and news like this reinforces my belief that it’s in decline.

What are folks using these days that (ideally) is open source and self-hostable? I don’t want to lock in with another platform. Some of these apps use the offline sync feature of Firestore (apps used in basements and other low-connectivity areas).

8m agoHN ↗

I guess Supabase is the obvious contender. It doesn't provide the actual frontend hosting though, which is a bit of a pain because now you have two problems.

19m agoHN ↗

If only there was any way to avoid this, right..? (I don't mean from Google's side, that as well, but that's not the point)

16m agoHN ↗

Keep vibe coding and breaking everything.

This will be the new normal as all human “engineers” from staff to seniors are now down levelled to interns and junior engineers when using AI; unable to understand what they are doing and pushing broken updates like this into production with “agents”.

Better not blame Claude on this outage.

6m agoHN ↗

At least Google engineers can invert a binary tree