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The new Firefox design is here

39 pointsby 54m agoblog.mozilla.org
26 comments
27m agoHN ↗

“Warm, but still precise” is an interesting goal. I wonder how much users actually feel that difference, though.

9m agoHN ↗

I still have hilarious memories of "aerodynamic tabs" in that era of Firefox design docs.

23m agoHN ↗

I want the page headings to look like tabs, not pills. You don't have to be different for the sake of it

12m agoHN ↗

It's not different, it's just what Apple is doing (Safari uses pills).

In fact, I propose that all computer User Interface design proceeds as:

    D(s) = (1 / (c * s + 1)) * (A(s) + N(s))

Where c is some constant, A is what Apple is doing and N is random noise.

18m agoHN ↗

Is their overview video doing it for literally anyone at all? I would love to not be infantilized.

8m agoHN ↗

Ooof, it's definitely not just you. I definitely root for Mozilla to succeed and think they're critical in the grand scheme of the browser wars, but that video is rough. It's practically Cocomelon.

17m agoHN ↗

Let me guess: even more whitespace, hiding stuff for a "clean" look like a baby toy.

17m agoHN ↗

Remarkably few images of design on this page about design. No I'm not going to watch a video.

12m agoHN ↗

Most of them are creative renderings too, not actual screenshots.

Besides the fake macOS window controls for some renderings, I don’t see how one would close, minimize, or zoom windows with this new design.

11m agoHN ↗

There are remarkably few examples in the video as well

10m agoHN ↗

Seriously, are you proud of the new look? SHOW IT TO ME. Even the video was mostly themed mock-ups that didn't show what the actual design looks like. Just post a screenshot of the whole browser.

12m agoHN ↗

Out of curiosity, if you use the split view, why? I never understood what it can do that my window manager cannot, but maybe I am overlooking something?

10m agoHN ↗

Sometimes is just nice to have a tab related to an activity, which might involve having two web sites open

8m agoHN ↗

I suppose that depends what your window manager is and how it's configured? Most don't have an easy way to lock two windows together as they are moved as one though - especially on corporate devices.

Practically, it's most useful when I have two references for the same thing I want to move together as I work on that thing. E.g. Jira + Functional Spec as I do things related to them.

5m agoHN ↗

Well, for one I use it to watch two videos at the same time.

11m agoHN ↗

Firefox needs to start adding actual embedded functionality improvements rather than constantly tweaking the UX. Chrome's integration with Googgle Pay for example (which lets you generate virtual card numbers on the fly) is what allowed Capital One to replace their browser agnostic extension. Now I cannot use Capital One virtual card number generator in my checkout workflow if I don't move to Chrome.

9m agoHN ↗

I wish Firefox would stop rolling out redesigns, color themes, and other visual tweaks every couple years and instead focus on features and bugs.

Improve Adblock capabilities, better tab and session management, improve sync, improve site css and js management, built in dark-mode.

Hell, just look at the list of most used extensions, it’s a great place to start understanding what users want.

9m agoHN ↗

Lots of pooh pooh, lots of blah blah, almost nothing on show.

9m agoHN ↗

FF has been my primary browser for 20 years. But in the past 6 months it spawns so many FF processes from a single web page with advertising like yahoo - 60 FF processes or more - that it's unusable. The X button to stop it doesn't work, and going to another website can take upwards of 10 seconds. I am looking for an another browser.

5m agoHN ↗

Which in turn is essentially the Arc browser's UI

4m agoHN ↗

"We have Arc Browser at home".

More seriously, it's nice to see this UI finally copied by a major browser, but sad that there's still no real replacement for Arc.

8m agoHN ↗

I think Firefox is doing a good job overall.

7m agoHN ↗

I just updated. I think it looks great overall, but there is way too much lost space on the horizontal tabs.

6m agoHN ↗

I gave it a few minutes of trial and then disabled it.

With memory prices increasing, many people unable to afford new machines, and web browsers being one of those things that can potentially take a lot of system resources, I wish the Firefox team would prioritize CPU and memory performance of the core engine for users with lots of tabs.

I have stuff like 'Auto tab discard' installed but it seems to break other things, like 'Close Duplicate Tabs'.