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The Lost Art of Pickpocketing (2011)

57 pointsby 13y agoslate.com
43 comments
13y agoHN ↗

They forgot the most obvious reason of all:

Increasing prevalence of tight-fitting clothing for both genders.

13y agoHN ↗

I remember seeing Harry In Your Pocket when I was 13 and I was mesmerized.

13y agoHN ↗

Anyone else kind of creeped out by this? Mourning that people don't cleverly commit a particular (victimful) crime anymore?

What if I wrote an article about the lost art of child molestation, talking about how children are now much better prepared against being lured away by strangers? And then sagely asked if "we should miss" the decline of child predation?

13y agoHN ↗

Pickpocketing used to be romanticized, and requires some skill to carry off. That's the difference.

13y agoHN ↗

One of the characters in the sci-fi show Crusade was a pickpocket, and her first scene demonstrated her prowess...I'm thinking she was supposed to be mostly likeable.

13y agoHN ↗

Pick-pocketing is basically a form of street magic (used for evil) so I think it is understandable that it delights people in a way when they aren't the victim. IIRC one of the characters in the remake of Oceans Eleven was introduced as a pickpocket. In fiction they are like jewelry or art thieves dressed in all black repelling down into a museum.

Now when you're just trying to walk down the street and some kid gets your wallet, it becomes a wee bit harder to appreciate...

13y agoHN ↗

Tricking children to

Sex with children was never romanticized? (Sparta, I'm looking in your general direction here.)

13y agoHN ↗

Pickpocketing is wrong, but if you can't see the difference with child molestation, then you seriously have no idea about the consequences of the latter.

13y agoHN ↗

Is there a name for the one that goes "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Godwin's law approaches 1"?

13y agoHN ↗

There is Miller's Paradox:

As a network evolves, the number of Nazi comparisons not forestalled by citation to Godwin's Law converges to zero.

13y agoHN ↗

Maybe because when people do a crime now, it is more violent.

São Paulo (where I live) this article also applies... São Paulo is huge, and has some subways, that were in the past filled with pickpockets.

Now we have for example the fact that in the last year alone we had a rise of more than 100% (don't remember the exact number) in violent robberies.

This year alone (and the year is not even over) we had also around 100% increase in robberies that end in death.

I seriously would prefer someone would try to steal stuff from my pocket, instead of pointing high caliber guns at my head (and this part of guns at my head already happened twice to me personally).

13y agoHN ↗

Wow. Did you even read the article? The article was a very well written cultural expose on a criminal activity that has a certain pop culture appeal. Did you not see the numerous citations of literature and media that the article featured? I'm questioning your critical thinking abilities if you actually think your comparison between culturally romanticized petty theft and child rape is valid.

13y agoHN ↗

"Demonstrate before the palace of the rich; demand work. If denied, demand bread. If denied both, steal the bread."

13y agoHN ↗

Seems to apply to the computer security field just as well.

13y agoHN ↗

The proper analog is an article on the lost art of lock picking, or how driving a stolen SUV into an ATM should earn less respect than digging a 100 m tunnel into a bank vault.

I don't see an inherent paradox in admiring the execution of an action while simultaneously condemning its objectives or effects. For example, Attila the Hun must have been a great military leader, but that does not mean one should admire the idea of plundering the world.

13y agoHN ↗

It's the old story: Crime and violence are on a multi-scale decline since the dawn of civilization, but nobody believes it.

13y agoHN ↗

the decline in picketing

The government doesn't exactly encourage picketing, but I do belive it has traditionally been considered a valid, non-violent form of protest and not a criminal act.

Let us join together and mourn the loss of the multi-century tradition of picketing... from the old country.

13y agoHN ↗

I think it's because communicating is improving even more drastically than crime is decreasing, so the average person hears even more credible stores of crime and violence than they used to (think of the local evening news).

It may fuel a perception that things are getting worse, when in reality our standards are rising, and the bad things are increasingly coming to our attention.

13y agoHN ↗

It's not that we don't believe it, it's that our brains are wired to focus on perceived threats and can't differentiate between hearing about a threat from a friend (with small, local distribution) and hearing about it from the news (with very wide distribution.) So we mentally approach crime news stores that are actually one in a million events (in a large city) like they happened to someone in the 150 or so people we know and communicate with regularly (our "tribe".)

13y agoHN ↗

I remember a pickpocket trying to pick my front pocket on the NYC subway in the late '80s. The subway car was packed since it was after the July 4th fireworks. What amazed me is that he realized were my cash was. Not in my wallet, but in my front left pocket.

I caught the pickpocket and wrapped my fingers over his and looked in his eyes. I didn't say anything since I knew thieves can roam in packs and my parents were not too far away. I was going to warn them (in a different language) when someone else caught the same pickpocket and started yelling at him and he finally left the train.

We were taught to wrap a rubber band around our wallets since it would create friction if someone tried to remove your wallets. Ah, the '80s.

13y agoHN ↗

A group of Argentinians in Buenos Aires city run a full web site with videos, images, and tips against subway pickpockets: http://www.peesba.com.ar/

They have even links to some of the pickpockets facebook pages!

13y agoHN ↗

Ask some of the gypsy/roma population in Bulgaria - by the time you are done asking them, they might be done with showing their talent.

13y agoHN ↗

Why pickpocket when you can rob someone over the wire?

13y agoHN ↗

Exactly, they've gone electronic.

People carry less cash these days anyway, we're all electronic/plastic.

13y agoHN ↗

Except that many of us carry smartphones that are worth more by themselves than the amount of cash we would normally consider carrying and expose you to further online fraud if stolen.

13y agoHN ↗

A smartphone isn't worth anything until you sell it.

13y agoHN ↗

I recently read a book on capital punishment through the years, and pickpocketing got so bad in the middle ages that it was punished by death. Every week the cart would bring the condemmed pickpockets through the street. The criminals would jeer at the crowd, the crowd would cheer and pick favorites. The soon-to-die would make a big speech before their death, often bawdy and unrepentant. All the while, more pickpockets were working the celebration, making their living.

13y agoHN ↗

Sort of amazes me that you can write an entire article about the dying art of pickpocketing and not interview any of the old picks. Would have made the article a lot more interesting than just some quotes from criminologists.

13y agoHN ↗

It just proves that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles successfully dealt with the Foot and their network of pickpockets.

13y agoHN ↗

Pickpocketing is alive and well in the UK/europe where they have entire teams of pickpockets especially around transit and subways.

13y agoHN ↗

If you read the article, it establishes that the practice flourishes in Europe still.

13y agoHN ↗

I got pickpockets in Bryant Park (Manhattan) in the summer of 2010. It was a surreal experience, at least two people involve (one bumped).

I realised what had happened about 15 seconds afterwards, but it was too late. Just crowds.

They did an excellent job!

13y agoHN ↗

I see many reaction around the indulgence towards pickpockets you can read in the article.

It reminded me about Vidocq, that at some point in his memories denounce the behavior of high society towards thieves that, he says, could even ask police to get a thief out of prison to let him demonstrate his skills to amuse guests for an evening.

Thieves were glamorized and victims were seen as fools by a great deal of society. Until one of those would be a victim himself.

It's not new, and more visible in cruder societies of the past, and I suspect it finds its roots in the very common, and almost reflex, respect given to ones that can show great dexterity and cleverness. Which is totally lost when brutality is involved, tools of the lesser mind. Well, except for war, where you can find respect even if violence is involved.

13y agoHN ↗

I'm guessing the person who wrote this is upper-middle class and has never known anyone poor enough that the loss of one paycheck would utterly destroy their family's lives.

Should we miss pickpockets. Should we be sad that American children are less likely to go hungry or become homeless when some scumbag takes the rent money out of Mom's pocket. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.

13y agoHN ↗

In a 2001 story, the New York Times reported that there were 23,068 reported pickpocketing incidents in the city in 1990, amounting to nearly $10 million in losses. Five years later, the number of reported incidents had fallen by half, and by the turn of the millennium, there were less than 5,000. Today, the NYPD doesn't even maintain individual numbers on pickpocketing.

NYPD crime statistics become more and more bogus every year. Just Google "NYPD statistics" and read the articles which pop up on the front page. Every mayor and police chief wants to point to statistics showing that crime is falling, and promotions and such are all related to statistics looking good, so naturally enough, the statistics are being fudged all over the place.

There may be more or less pickpockets now than in decades past, but NYPD statistics are nothing to go by.