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It's been a long time since my last college English class, but I enjoyed Derek Walcott:
"...I loved them, my children, my wife, my home;
I loved them as poets love the poetry
that kills them, as drowned sailors the sea."
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/177932
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Walcott
A fellow Walcott fan!
"The time will come
when, with elation
you will greet yourself arriving
at your own door, in your own mirror
and each will smile at the other's welcome..."
Dylan Thomas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_Thomas
http://www.poemhunter.com/dylan-thomas/
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on that sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Henry James made it into the original (for me) Hack FAQ https://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Hackers/hacking.faq
But also Neruda:
Is this the same (American) Henry James that I think of as a novelist?
This one wrote the middle years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_James where you can find:
Ah, we were thinking of the same one. It's worth noting that his brother, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James , wrote some of the most lyrical philosophy and psychology works of the late 19th century.
As measured by lines remembered, I suppose that Yeats has to top the list. In no particular other order, Eliot, Ransom, Wyatt, Hardy, J.V. Cunningham, Bunting.
Omar Khayyam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khayy%C3%A1m
--
Thomas Gray
http://www.potw.org/archive/potw90.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gray
Omar Khayyam is wonderful. I have the first stanza of the Rubaiyat painted and framed in khatam style.
This quatrain makes me think Khayyam was a HN reader:
Neruda is my favourite.
Here's another one
How he is able construct such powerful verse out of simple words and concepts always blows me away. Though it looks easy I've never seen a good imitation of his style.
Then there's this poem by Phillip Larkin that I like.
Shakespeare's sonnets are good.
Classical poetry is just really hardcore when you consider how hard it is to write within the constraints of rhyme , meter and the chosen form. It's definitely in the hacker spirit of doing things like the JS1K contest , or maybe crazy assembly optimised demos.
Also checkout Charles Bukowski and Coleridge.
Genius.com is a wonderful way to read poetry.
Hurray, I've been looking for that Larkin poem since college.
Neruda + Pop band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWnM45HLe_A
Wow! I though nothing could be cornier than Neruda.
"I want to do to you , what the spring does to the cherry trees." I've never seen that in english, so I looked it up (http://albalearning.com/audiolibros/neruda/poema14-sp-en.htm...) I guess it goes without saying, but english really doesn't do him justice, rhyming trees with kisses is pretty poor compared to cerizos and besos which is perfect rhyme. But I suppose poetry is about the most difficult thing to translate b/c of the many levels from phonetical to subtle contextual and semantical differences that are all overlayed and compacted into a few small verses. I certainly wouldn't want to / couldn't translate it.
But yea, in spanish my favorites are Neruda and Borges (see: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generaci%C3%B3n_del_45). I found this link which has a lot of other good poets IMHO for instance ruben dario or mario benedetti (http://www.cubaeuropa.com/cubarte/poesia/PoesiaLatinoamerica...).
In english I just nerd out on the old the stuff and for some reason never really got into anything newer... I like chaucer, spencer, milton, shakespeare, plus just reading through all those in the original is so cool after a couple pages you slip into another world and time, nice escapism.
I read the spanish version from the link you posted and, although I don't speak spanish, it doesn't look like there is any other rhyme at all in the whole poem. Am I right? Do you think that this was intentional - does it mean something in spanish/latin american poetry?
No there's rhyming all over the place in this one, just not always on the end of the line. But first and second stanzas, in the 4th just take for example:
"Pasan huyendo los pájaros. El viento. El viento"
huyendo rhymes with viento, pasan alliterates with pajaros, and the "l" en los and "o" in pajaros fits very nicely with the "l" and "o" in the repition of "el viento".
In english you see the translator trying to get it somewhat with birds and by :
"The birds go by, fleeing. The wind. The wind."
Since letters in Spanish have only one sound, '-izos' and '-esos' cannot be made to rhyme without distorting the pronunciation of one of the words. I don't see how that makes 'perfect' rhyme.
He actually had a typo there. It's 'cerezos', not 'cerizos'.
I would like to become more "cultured" and just aware of more words, forming sentences, communicating, and have more to call on for expressing my feelings.
What is the best way to get into poetry more? Read a couple a day or something? I would actually really like to read Shakespeare, but most seem to be of the mind that you really need a class or something to really get the translation.
well, if you want to get into the older stuff like shakespeare I would suggest just diving in. At first, just lookup the words you dont know and after maybe one play you should have already learned enough to understand his style and language and "get" his works on their face value.
as far as literary references go - aka john milton - (basically the only reason you'd need a class), I really think you'd just have to read/know most of the greek/roman classics and the bible to be able to get most of them. But no worries, if you enjoy reading the classics are a blast, the hebrew old testament is packed with pretty cool stories (the mad king Nebuchadnezzer) and it doesn't get much better than the iliad and odyssey.
+1 for Coleridge, especially the first stanza of Kubla Khan [0].
Also, I'm surprised to see nobody here recommending A.E. Houseman. His Reveille is my favorite poem:
... Up, lad, up, 'tis late for lying: Hear the drums of morning play; Hark, the empty highways crying 'Who'll beyond the hills away?' ...
[0] http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173247
I read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency before ever coming across Coleridge's Kubla Khan and spent quite a bit of time (this was before I was on the Internet) trying to find the rest of the poem. I was quite disappointed once I figured things out but on the plus side I understood what happened in the book afterwards.
A personal favourite of mine, by Coleridge :-
http://www.orgs.miamioh.edu/anthologies/bijou/vissat/Workwit...
Why? Because in the movie Groundhog Day, when Phil Connors has had his moment of enlightenment/peripety, he quotes :
"And winter, slumbering in the open air, Wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring!"
Knowing this poem makes the film better. Knowing how widely popular Coleridge became makes the poem better.
Houseman's a favorite of mine as well.
I'll join you in appreciating Neruda. Me gusta especialmente Los Versos del Capitan. Night on the Island, just one of the gems.
http://www.akirarabelais.com/vi/o/thelibraryofbabel/neruda/c...
Genius.com is a wonderful site.
Please don't turn HN into Quora.
“Come to the edge," he said.
"We can't, we're afraid!" they responded.
"Come to the edge," he said.
"We can't, We will fall!" they responded.
"Come to the edge," he said.
And so they came.
And he pushed them.
And they flew.”
― Guillaume Apollinaire
close second:
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Natalie merchant has a wonderful song using the second poem as the lyrics. Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJHrc-ABp4
it's not Apollinaire, it's Christopher Logue, an English poet
Rabindranath Tagore:
Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high
Where knowledge is free
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments
By narrow domestic walls
Where words come out from the depth of truth
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way
Into the dreary desert sand of dead habit
Where the mind is led forward by thee
Into ever-widening thought and action
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake
Pushkin, Lermontov, Nekrasov... Yeah, I'm Russian :-p
Among English poems, I rather like this one by Laurie Lee:
And of course W.H. Auden:
I'm not Russian and I like Lermontov :)
Same, but I'm more partial to Pushkin :)
https://youtu.be/FH73RSxaqgU?t=115
This was a scene from the movie "Бакенбарды" ("Backenbardy", literary "sideburns") where Pushkin cultists encounter Lermontov fanboys.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099097/
What Auden couldn't find On hornbooks or in verses Is whether it is our condition Only stirring with the curses
Bro ;)
I like George Bacovia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bacovia)
Here is his probably most known one:
(Translation from: http://www.aboutromania.com/bacovia1.html)
Translating poems is pretty hard. That was an ok translation. It doesn't quite sound quite right.
Regarding poetry translation (and a lot more), there is this book:
By Douglas Hofstadter, that I quite like and recommend!
This is (arguably) a better book than GEB ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel,_Escher,_Bach ) for the literature-minded folks out there. I can't recommend it enough.
Jorge Luis Borges
Edgar Allan Poe
Jorge Manrique. This might be the less known so: http://users.ipfw.edu/jehle/POESIA/COPLASEN.HTM
It doesn't sound the same in english, though :(
And I can only add another vote for Neruda!
Richard Wilbur has done exquisite translations, like this one...
Everness, Jorge Luis Borges
Billy Collins http://www.poemhunter.com/billy-collins/
Yes!
Also a fan of Mary Oliver.
I like him in-person even more than on the page.
A couple recordings:
Where Dogs Come From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOvbl3ZPPV4
A reading from Prairie Home Companion in February, dealing with cats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTxpQCY7df8
If you get a chance tosee him live, don't miss it. He's delightful.
cats make great poets
Glad people still read poetry! Surprised no one's mentioned Byron yet:
Lo! where the Giant on the mountain stands, His blood-red tresses deep'ning in the sun, With death-shot glowing in his fiery hands, And eye that scorcheth all it glares upon; Restless it rolls, now fixed, and now anon Flashing a far,—and at his iron feet Destruction cowers to mark what deeds are done. For on this morn three potent nations meet, To shed before his shrine the blood he deems most sweet.
Also only one rapper?
Cecil Day Lewis:
And, of course being a Scot, Robert Burns:
and:
[Apologies for the bloodthirsty nature of Scots Wha Hae - but I was taught this stuff from an early age and it kind of stuck even though it's describing events of 700 years ago.]
Edit:
Burn's Selkirk Grace is about the only thing I've tried to memorise; I'll check afterwards how far away I was:
Not too far off, but it turns out there are several versions.
From http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_grace.htm:
The last line is often varied to read-
Violet Jacobs, from Hallowe'en:
E.E. Cummings, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Samuel Taylor Coleridge.
One of Cummings's short poems that I enjoy:
A few mentions of Hopkins in this thread, but too few examples.
So, Heaven Haven:
And then: "The Habit of Perfection":
Billy Collins.
For me it's Sir John Betjeman. Very English of course. But...
Mario Benedetti:
Emily Dickinson:
All life to know each other
Whom we can never learn
Dickinson, Tennyson, Yeats, Whitman
Thomas Grey ("Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard," with its lyric celebration of ordinary life, is arguably the greatest English poem).
TS Elliot, on his good days (Prufrock counts as a good day, as do the Landscape poems. He oversteps in "The Waste Land".)
Tennyson, when in the mood for melancholy.
Robert Herrick, when in the mood for insouciance, contemplation and the poet's struggle.
I don't pay attention to the world Ending. It has ended for me many Times and began again in the morning.
― Nayyirah Waheed
Desert Places by Robert Frost
Snow falling and night falling fast, oh, fast In a field I looked into going past, And the ground almost covered smooth in snow, But a few weeds and stubble showing last.
The woods around it have it-it is theirs. All animals are smothered in their lairs. I am too absent-spirited to count; The loneliness includes me unawares.
And lonely as it is, that loneliness Will be more lonely ere it will be less- A blanker whiteness of benighted snow With no expression, nothing to express.
They cannot scare me with their empty spaces Between stars-on stars where no human race is. I have it in me so much nearer home To scare myself with my own desert places.
Ode by Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy.
WE are the music-makers,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
With wonderful deathless ditties
We build up the world's great cities, And out of a fabulous story
One man with a dream, at pleasure,
And three with a new song's measure Can trample an empire down.
We, in the ages lying
Built Nineveh with our sighing,
And o'erthrew them with prophesying
For each age is a dream that is dying,
T.S. Eliot. "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" perfectly captures the essence of a middle-aged man's insecurities, and Eliot wrote it when he was 23.
Eliot is amazing; folks who love his work do themselves a disservice, however, if they aren't also reading Ezra Pound ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Pound ) for a very different perspective on most of the same inspirations that made Eliot's early work so powerful.
Alec Guinness reading the Wasteland is amazing.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbunup_t-s-eliot-the-waste-...
"Hurry up please, it's time."
If you haven't already, you should watch this lecture by Nick Mount on Eliot's "The Waste Land": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxF9xkB5o04
April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
I recently reread Christopher Alexander's foreword to "Patterns of Software" and remembered his mention of this poem. He asks, with something that could be called optimism:
"Can you write a program which overcomes the gulf between the technical culture of our civilization, and which inserts itself into our human life as deeply as Eliot's poems of the wasteland or Virginia Woolf's The Waves?"
No Mention of the Bard?
William Butler Yeats:
I discovered The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran around 2009 and it quickly became and has remained one of my favorites. I appreciate the descriptiveness and beauty of the language along with the continuing relevance of the advice. It's very easy reading and enjoyable to pick up for a short time and enjoy in small bits or read straight through.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prophet_%28book%29
A couple favorites of mine are:
On Pain - http://www.katsandogz.com/onpain.html
On Reason & Passion - http://www.katsandogz.com/onreason.html
William S. Burroughs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pn79iNS-Js
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjQ0FNzkLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3kz4AUHe1M
One of the 'beat poets' and pioneer of the "cut up", a semi-randomized collage of slicing, duplicating, and splicing media. The effect seems to create awareness of the medium itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_hztHJCM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NU3dIdqIBw
Ted Kooser.
http://tedkooser.net/
He was the US Poet Laureate for a few years. He is from Nebraska, and writes about Midwestern life, among other things. His most recent volume just came out, and I thought it was great.
http://www.amazon.com/Splitting-Order-Ted-Kooser/dp/15565946...
From "Splitting an Order":
Velimir Chlebnikov, 1885 - 1922. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velimir_Khlebnikov
My favorite poem:
Once again, once again
I’m a star for
you.
Woe to the sailor who has taken
The wrong angle of the ship
On a star:
He will be shattered on the rocks,
On the underwater sandbanks.
Woe to you also who have taken
The heart’s wrong angle on me.
You will be shattered on the rocks,
And rocks will laugh
At you
As you laught
At me.
I stumbled across this in a high school magazine left in a youth hostel in Maroochydore, Queensland in 1986, and have never seen another reference to it since. It's attribution was 'anonymous', and googling key lines bring up nothing.
I've always liked it, and posting it here might give it some longevity beyond that of my hard drive.
Cavafy! http://www.cavafy.com/poems/list.asp?cat=1
Thank you so much for reminding me of his writing. I fell in love with a Greek woman on Crete many years ago. It was one of the most painful times of my life when I realized that I could not stay there with her, or she with me. Cavafy's poem Ithaca has haunted me whenever I'm reminded of it:
http://www.cavafy.com/poems/content.asp?id=74&cat=1
I am a muted Ulysses.
[Update] Looks like I'm not the only one who loves this poem. See the follow-on comment for some background.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9292200
John Burroughs
One Art
Elizabeth Bishop, 1911 - 1979 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bishop)
As somebody who studied lit, this is an impossible question to answer, so I'll just link to my favorite John Donne ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Donne ) poem from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Sonnets, number 14 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Holy_Sonnets#Holy_Sonnet_14
It's set to music in the fantastic Doctor Atomic by John Adams, with a superb recording available from http://www.metopera.org
Edits: still not good at HN formatting, should be good now.
And one poet I never appreciated when introduced to her, but love now: Edna St. Vincent Millay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_St._Vincent_Millay
Renaissance and Other Poems is full of just staggering work: http://books.google.com/books?id=vxUpAAAAYAAJ
Since you studied it - what do you look for in great poetry?
Parsimony.
I don't particularly enjoy poetry (or poets for that matter), but I always liked reading "Algorhyme" by Radia Perlman, the inventor of spanning tree network protocol
This is a great one, and one that often comes up when I tutor students. It's even better if you can teach it as a sing-along.
What's the tune?
I wish I had a better answer than "I make one up as needed", but I have more of a filking ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filk_music ) background than any actual musical training.
nice to see another filker on here :)
I'm surprised no-one said Keats (which is mine) but Hunt is, in some sense, close enough
Fantastic
Omar Khayyam, the Persian poet is by far my favorite. His writings are absolutely riveting and awe-inspiring!! He was so ahead of his time and genius polymath as well.
Do you have any particular poems, or collections that you would suggest?
Gerard Manley Hopkins:
"[..] sheer plod makes plough down sillion shine."
Issa.
this world of dew
just a world of dew
and yet...
Ghalib[0], whose every poem is like a heartbreaking Koan, although it's very hard to find good English translations:
(My translations)
[0]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghalib, http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00ghalib/index....
And here is a famous one from Ghalib:
Rough translation:
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_Taqi_Mir
Not the blossom of song not the veil of music
I am the sound of my own breaking
You toy with the length of your dark curls
I am captive to my own dark thoughts
We brag to ourselves that we are different
this weakness has burdened our simple grief
Now you have come and I find myself bowing
this blessing a sadness this prayer a longing
I am a fragment sounding the dawn
you are the walls of my every echo
Wislawa Szymborska.
Until I read her poems, I thought people that fawned over poetry were just making it up.
Here is the one that I read first http://bettinamay.com/poem/2008/10/view-with-a-grain-of-sand...
Charles Baudelaire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Baudelaire):
Baudelaire is an incredibly powerful poet. My favorite is "L'Albatros", this poem leaves me speechless every time.
I studied this poem back in high school (in France).
I have mixed feeling about it. I said "studied", but I really meant "had to study". There's something about school's treatment of the subject that just robs the poem of any power. Maybe it's because as teenagers we likely didn't have the life experience for it to resonate with us. Even now, I can vaguely sense it but am numb to it. On the other hand, I'm glad I have been introduced to such poetry, as I think it helps me later in life to appreciate the finer things.
Also, did you know Baudelaire's translation of Poe's work brought it french recognition? (I earlier got it the wrong way around, thinking Poe had translated Baudelaire)
I had to study a corpus of 30 texts for the bac as well a couple months ago. I certainly understand how you feel... (I am glad to be done with high-school)
I don't blame the teachers because it is true that most literary masterpieces are hard to tackle the "right way" especially when there is a standard final examination that students have to be prepared for.
I was lucky enough to have a very passionate teacher during my senior year of high-school who introduced me to some really exciting readings, and had enough charisma to capture the imagination of a room full of troubled teenagers. That is one of my fondest memory so far.
As far as I can remember, I always liked L'Albatros. Although I have to admit that the original version resonates a lot more with myself.
The slower pace of the last few sentences are like a kiss of death, a condemnation at the end of a trial: unquestionable and absolute.
You can almost feel the tears tearing Baudelaire apart. It's glorious in its very own morbidity. I just love it :)
Bravo! I'm curious though: 15 years ago the french part was done a year earlier than the rest. Is it common to do everything together nowadays, or was your curriculum a bit different?
My favorite is "Le Poison"
It's even better in French:
In Immortal Ad Vitam (2004) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0314063/), they quote a mix of the original version in French and the English translation, combined with the song Beautiful Days by Venus, and it's really beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spMm3A2T-CM
Isn't it strange to call that Beaudelaire's? Edna St. Vincent Millay put these words on paper, Beaudelaire wrote only in French...
Yes, I'm French and I agree. The message is well translated, but the original is made with much more precision, and it is more gracious. But English has some nice poetry, I like Whitman and e. e. cummings. When it comes to French, I'd recommend this classic from Victor Hugo, Tomorrow at dawn, it's simple but human, and the translation is fair, it's dedicated to his daughter: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/972635-tomorrow-at-dawn-the...
There's also this poem of Baudelaire about female homosexuality, which I like, Damned women, also called Delphine and Hippolyta. His whole book "Les fleurs du mal" (The Flowers of Evil) was heresy at the time (1860), it was about the beauty of evil, well, in part. There are English versions there but it's not easy to translate: http://fleursdumal.org/poem/180
I don't find it strange to claim that this is Baudelaire's work. Of course the style and the rhymes makes it very different compared to the original version. I also think that translation has altered the poem's beauty but the message is still here, the story is the same and it leaves me with the same humbled feelings.
Story? There's no story in poetry!
But yes, this is still Baudelaire's poem, I would have recognized it (I know well the French version).
I particularly like the Liam Clancy recitation of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sydUOvELvg#t=29
God.
Though you probably have to read/hear/understand the Quran in Arabic to fully appreciate its beauty. Nothing worldly has even come close to the poetic and literatural quality of God's word.
I'm sorry, but reading the translation of Quran, I can't believe it:
Those who wander from the way of Allah have an awful doom.--38:36
Take them [unbelivers] and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.--4:91
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you--9:123
Those who strive against Our revelations, challenging (Us), theirs will be a painful doom of wrath.--34:5
Those who disbelieve will be gathered unto hell.--8:36
A painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.--9:90
As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom.--2:6-7
We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness.---6:25
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers--3:28
What can be pretty and poetic in that?
You are cherry picking verses completely pulled out of their context for the sake of bashing the theological believes of Islam, I was talking about the poetic quality.
Here is a video to illustrate the poetic quality of the Quran:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPnS4_kmr0w
Wow. Sincerely thank you for that video. I honestly can't recommend it enough. I gave you my upvote for posting it.
It was really instructive. Now I understand how you came to your opinions.
acqq may be cherry-picking and bashing islam, but you were proselytising - you weren't just talking about the poetic quality.
Your video boils down to "it is because it is". It relies on the faulty assumption that a human or collection of humans can't possibly write something that's very beautiful. It's not even an internally consistent argument - somehow humans are able to analyse and critique the poetry in the koran, but yet not able to create it? It simply doesn't follow that because something is beautiful, only a god could have created it.
To paraphrase the famous cartoon: if you locked people in a box for a thousand years with 500 still frames of Joe Biden eating a sandwich, by the end they'd be adamant that the pictureas are the prettiest thing ever produced on Earth.
I couldn't resist - if you look in the comments to that video, you'll see me listing eight rhetorical devices against Eminem's quoted word "Yo", using the same qualifying standards that the bloke in the video uses (re-using several of the vlogger's own selections).
The video makes a big song and dance about there being so many rhetorical devices, but there's so much padding in that list. The vlogger than quotes a verse from Eminem's Lose Yourself, and states that it only has one rhetorical device - assonance. But you simply can't get assonance without "word choice" and "word arrangement", which the vlogger previously gave as props to his koran verse. It's a pretty cut-and-dried case of stacking the deck.
Anyway, if you're interested, check out the comments to the video to see how I found (at least) eight rhetorical devices in the two-letter word "Yo" that starts the verse. Density of rhetorical devices is the key point of the video; according to the vlogger, such high density either indicates the divinity of the author, or disproves the koran as the word of god.
Despite the lack of logic in the vlogger's arguments, he does have fantastic oration and sounds beautifully melodic as he speaks. I enjoyed the video just for the sound of his talking.
Fernando Pessoa (great portuguese language poet)
TOBACCO SHOP - (excerpts)
I'm nothing. I'll allways be nothing. I can't even wish to be something. Aside from that, I've got all the world's dream inside me.
Windows of my room, The room of just one of the millions in the world nobody knows (And what would they know, if they knew that?), You open on the mistery of a street people are constantly crossing, A street blocked off to all though, A street that's real, impossibly real, and right, unconsciously right, With the mistery of things lying under live beings and stones, With death spreading darkness on walls and white hair on heads, With fate driving the cart of everything down nothingness road.
Today I'm bowled over, as though hit by the truth. Today I'm clearheaded, as though I were going to die, Having no more brotherly feeling for things Than to say good-bye, turning this house and this side of the street Into a line of coaches in a long train with its whistle shrieking good-bye From inside my head, And a nerve-wracking, bone-cracking jerk as it moves off.
Today I'm mixed up, like someone who thought something and grasped it, then lost it. Today I'm torn between the allegiance I owe Something real outside me - The Tobacco Shop across the street, And something real inside me - the feeling that it's all a dream.
I failed in everything. Since I was up to nothing, maybe it was all really nothing. From learning and training for anything useful I escaped By slipping off to the country with great plans, By found only grass and threes there, And when there were people, they were just like any others. I leave the window, sit down in a chair. What should I think about?
[....]
(Eat your chocolates, little girl! Eat your chocolates! Look, there's no metaphysics on earth but chocolates. Look, all religions on earth have nothing more to teach us than a candy store does. Eat, dirty little girl, eat them up! If I could gobble down those chocolates as trustily as you do! But I think, peeling off the silver wrapper, it's only tinfoil, And toss it in the floor, just as I've tossed away my life.)
But at least, out of my bitterness at what I'll never be, There's the quick calligraphy of these lines, The broken archway to the Impossible. And at least I reserve for myself this dry-eyed contempt- Noble, at least, in the great gesture I make Flinging out the dirty clothes I am, with no laundry list, into the drift of things, And stay at home, shirtless.
[....]
Walt Whitman ..
http://www.whitmanarchive.org/published/LG/index.html
original manuscripts :: http://www.whitmanarchive.org/manuscripts/transcriptions/ind...
THAT is no country for old men. The young
In one another's arms, birds in the trees
- Those dying generations - at their song,
The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas,
Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long
Whatever is begotten, born, and dies.
Caught in that sensual music all neglect
Monuments of unageing intellect.
…
An aged man is but a paltry thing,
A tattered coat upon a stick, unless
Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing
For every tatter in its mortal dress,
Nor is there singing school but studying
Monuments of its own magnificence;
And therefore I have sailed the seas and come
To the holy city of Byzantium.
…
O sages standing in God's holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul.
Consume my heart away; sick with desire
And fastened to a dying animal
It knows not what it is; and gather me
Into the artifice of eternity.
…
Once out of nature I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing,
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come.
- W B Yeats
Those have to be seven of the most powerful words ever written in any language.
Victor Segalen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Segalen
In particular, the book of Steles:
http://www.rochester.edu/College/translation/threepercent/?s...
Dr. Seuss (Theodore Geisel)
“Think and wonder, wonder and think.”
Czesław Miłosz, "Campo di fiori":
Aside from Tolkien's poetry in-world poetry, my favorite is probably Tennyson. Ulysses in particular is awesome. This is the final stanza.
Seamus Heaney & Patrick Kavanagh
Heaney was a literary genius. Kavanagh was a master at capturing the bleak reality of working class Ireland.
Both very different in their own right but both are prime examples of the immense variety within Irish poetry.
Mihai Eminescu - "Si Daca" (And If in English)
And if the branches tap my pane And the poplars whisper nightly, It is to make me dream again I hold you to me tightly.
And if the stars shine on the pond And light its sombre shoal, It is to quench my mind's despond And flood with peace my soul.
And if the clouds their tresses part And does the moon outblaze, It is but to remind my heart I long for you always.
Desiderata by Max Ehrmann:
Richard Brautigan!!
~All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace
My favourite poet is K. P. Cavafy and my favorite poem is Ithaca:
This translation is by Edmund Keeley and Philip Sherrard. Cavafy is a Greek poet who lived in Alexandria in the beginning of the century. He was very shy, he never sold any of his poets. He made copies and distributed his poetry to friends only. He was a perfectionists. Reports say that he would literally work up to 20 years to a single poem, changing words, syllables or entire lines accordingly. His poetry greatly improved as he grew older. Personally, I enjoyed this version[1] by Sir Sean Connery.
Then I also admire deeply Shakespeare. To me Shakespeare is like a crossroad between, poetry, philosophy, love, wisdom. An unbelievably refreshing, well-made cocktail of thought and art.
Those two poets are the ones that touch my spirit the most :-)
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n3n2Ox4Yfk
As this is my favourite poem as well and you beat me to sharing it, I may as well add some context to it for the people not familiar with names and situations:
Ithaca[1] is where Odysseus[2], one of the greek heroes in the Trojan War, came from. After the war was over he set, along with his crew, to return home but this took him ten whole years and Homer wrote about his adventures and misfortunes in the epic that is known as Odyssey[3].
Now, as this consists of dangerous situations, very bad luck, betrayal and a couple of other bad things, the word "odyssey" has become one with which modern greeks describe a long and difficult period until something (a goal, a destination, etc) is reached. However, Kavafis (greek for Cavafy) turned this around and is describing all the great things that one can benefit from during such journeys: new harbours, Phoenician goods, Egyptian cities - all these pictures are used to demonstrate how rich one will be after an "odyssey" even if he/she has to face Laistrygonians, Cyclops and angry Poseidons.
In the end, Kavafis tells us about what Ithaca really is about: not reaching your destination but experiencing the journey.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odysseus [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey
not really a favorite poet, but a favorite poem : 'Cat in an empty apartment'
it never fails to get to me.
this, absolutely! My favourite as a kid
Gustavo Adolfo Becquer, about poetry itself (sorry, Spanish is my language, still wanted to share):
No digáis que agotado su tesoro, de asuntos falta enmudeció la lira: podrá no haber poetas, pero siempre habrá poesía.
Mientras las ondas de la luz al beso palpiten encendidas, mientras el sol las desgarradas nubes de fuego y oro vista, mientras el aire en su regazo lleve perfumes y armonías, mientras haya en el mundo primavera, ¡habrá poesía!
Mientras la ciencia a descubrir no alcance las fuentes de la vida, y en el mar o en el cielo haya un abismo que al cálculo resista, mientras la humanidad siempre avanzando no sepa a do camina, mientras haya un misterio para el hombre, ¡habrá poesía!
Mientras se sienta que se ríe el alma sin que los labios rían, mientras se llore, sin que el llanto acuda a nublar la pupila, mientras el corazón y la cabeza batallando prosigan, mientras haya esperanzas y recuerdos, ¡habrá poesía!
Mientras haya unos ojos que reflejen los ojos que los miran, mientras responda el labio suspirando al labio que suspira, mientras sentirse puedan en un beso dos almas confundidas, mientras exista una mujer hermosa, ¡habrá poesía!
A Poison Tree
William Blake, 1757 - 1827
I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe:
I told it not, my wrath did grow.
And I watered it in fears
Night and morning with my tears,
And I sunned it with smiles
And with soft deceitful wiles.
And it grew both day and night,
Till it bore an apple bright,
And my foe beheld it shine,
And he knew that it was mine,--
And into my garden stole
When the night had veiled the pole;
In the morning, glad, I see
My foe outstretched beneath the tree.
William Blake, especially Auguries of Innocence.
"Digging" by Seamus Heaney. One of my favorites.
Andrew Marvell and John Donne. Marvell's "To His Coy Mistress" and Donne's "The Ecstasy" are both classic love poems.
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173355
John Donne. "The Anagram" is probably one of the cleverest poems ever written; I have never seen such an elaborate put-down in any form.
http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?18947...
I love Neruda, specially "No culpes a nadie". It helped me a lot to stop complaining. C&P a possibly wrong translation
This poem (and the original spanish) is one of my favourites! Thank you for posting.
The Little Dog's Day by Rupert Brooke
All in the town were still asleep, When the sun came up with a shout and a leap. In the lonely streets unseen by man, A little dog danced. And the day began.
All his life he'd been good, as far as he could, And the poor little beast had done all that he should. But this morning he swore, by Odin and Thor And the Canine Valhalla—he'd stand it no more!
So his prayer he got granted—to do just what he wanted, Prevented by none, for the space of one day. "Jam incipiebo, sedere facebo," In dog-Latin he quoth, "Euge! sophos! hurray!"
He fought with the he-dogs, and winked at the she-dogs, A thing that had never been heard of before. "For the stigma of gluttony, I care not a button!" he Cried, and ate all he could swallow—and more.
He took sinewy lumps from the shins of old frumps, And mangled the errand-boys—when he could get 'em. He shammed furious rabies, and bit all the babies, And followed the cats up the trees, and then ate 'em!"
They thought 'twas the devil was holding a revel, And sent for the parson to drive him away; For the town never knew such a hullabaloo As that little dog raised—till the end of that day.
When the blood-red sun had gone burning down, And the lights were lit in the little town, Outside, in the gloom of the twilight grey, The little dog died when he'd had his day.
THE TYGER (from Songs Of Experience)
By William Blake
Tyger! Tyger! burning bright In the forests of the night, What immortal hand or eye Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies Burnt the fire of thine eyes? On what wings dare he aspire? What the hand dare sieze the fire?
And what shoulder, & what art. Could twist the sinews of thy heart? And when thy heart began to beat, What dread hand? & what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain? In what furnace was thy brain? What the anvil? what dread grasp Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears, And watered heaven with their tears, Did he smile his work to see? Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
Tyger! Tyger! burning bright In the forests of the night, What immortal hand or eye Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
1794
I've always enjoyed Blake's poems. One of my favourites from that collecion is The Fly:
Plenty of great poets mentioned here. Figured I'd add a pair of my favorite contemporary poets, Sarah Lindsay and Paul Guest:
Sarah Lindsay - Elegy for the Quagga (http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poem/182245)
Paul Guest - User’s Guide to Physical Debilitation (http://www.theparisreview.org/poetry/5874/two-poems-paul-gue...)
One day somebody sent me this. It still gets me every time.
Not my absolute favorite poem but one I always liked.
It's by an 18th century libertine priest who was called l'Abbé de Lattaignant.
Buddy Wakefield. Slam poet, spoken word. He got be through some really hard times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLoRyBj0Jzo9rTFW1XGTkG3WF...
Adrienne Rich: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Rich
I'm a fan of Invictus, by William Ernest Henley:
I always loved Invictus. it was also my Father's favorite, and I remember how I felt "offended" when I learned Timothy McVeigh had chosen it for his last words.
This is one of my favourite poems.
- Agha Shahid Ali Khan
Edward Gorey
Nice! I grew up near him and my dad used to act in his plays. He was such a great artist and interesting person. I like this line "A hissing swarm of hair bugs has got the baby and its rugs" from the evil garden.
Felix Dennis (†2014)
What’s It Like Then, Being Rich?
What’s it like then, being rich,
Knitting gold to warm an itch?
Why not share this magic key
To luxury — and start with me!
How does one become your ilk?
Is it bred in mothers’ milk?
Wherein lies the difference
From us — this odd ambivalence?
Grown far richer than his neighbour,
Why would any rich man labour?
Salt my arse! It’s filthy greed —
How many homes does one man need?
I’ve seen. But surely, comfort pales
Perched on padded Chippendales?
Aye, the eyes of tart and whore!
What might you miss, if you were poor?
Except his poems, I also recommend his great book on becoming rich http://www.felixdennis.com/books/how-to-get-rich/
Seamus Heaney - Digging
Great to see Heaney mentioned by several people here! Recently voted Ireland's favourite poet of the last 100 years. This poem is a great example of his talent to document the small but evocative, quintessential elements of Irish experience. I'm having some wonderful childhood flashbacks of days on the bog right now :)
I love Edgar Allen Poe, but one particular reason is because of his essay "The Philosophy of Composition".[1] It's a long piece basically describing the methodical and mathematical way he developed The Raven. It's a really cool look at his process for creation.
Plus it pisses off your run-of-the-mill literary types.
1: http://www.eapoe.org/works/essays/philcomp.htm
The Men Who Don't Fit In - Robert Service
http://alexmuir.com/the-men-who-dont-fit-in
Happy Dust
By Aleister Crowley
For Margot
Snow that fallest from heaven, bear me aloft on thy wings To the domes of the star-girdled Seven, the abode of ineffable things,
Quintessence of joy and of strength, that, abolishing future and past,
Mak'st the Present an infinite length, my soul all-One with the Vast,
The Lone, the Unnameable God, that is ice of His measureless cold,
Without being or form or abode, without motion or matter, the fold
Where the shepherded Universe sleeps, with nor sense nor delusion nor dream,
No spirit that wantons or weeps, no thought in its silence supreme.
I sit, and am utterly still; in mine eyes is my fathomless lust
Ablaze to annihilate Will, to crumble my being to dust, To calcine the dust to an ash, to burn up the ash to an air, To abolish the air with a flash of the final, the fulminant flare.
All this I have done, and dissolved the primordial germ of my thought;
I have rolled myself up, and revolved the wheel of my being to Naught.
Is there even the memory left? That I was, that I am? It is lost.
As I utter the Word, I am cleft by the last swift spear of the frost.
Snow! I am nothing at last; I sit, and am utterly still; They are perished, the phantoms, and past; they were born of my weariness-will
When I craved, craved being and form, when the consciousness-cloud was a mist
Precurser of stupor and storm, when I and my shadow had kissed,
And brought into life all the shapes that confused the clear space with their marks,
Vain spectres whose vapour escapes, a whirlwind of ruinous sparks,
No substance have any of these; I have dreamed them in sickness of lust,
Delirium born of disease-ah, whence was the master, the "must"
Imposed on the All? is it true, then, that something in me
Is subject to fate? Are there two, after all, that can be?
I have brought all that is to an end; for myself am sufficient and sole.
Do I trick myself now? Shall I rend once again this homologous Whole?
I have stripped every garment from space; I have strangled the secret of Time,
All being is fled from my face, with Motion's inhibited rime.
Stiller and stiller I sit, till even Infinity fades; 'Tis an idol-'tis weakness of wit that breeds, in inanity, shades!
Yet the fullness of Naught I become, the deepest and steadiest Naught,
Contains in its nature the sum of the functions of being and thought.
Still as I sit, and destroy all possible trace of the past, All germ of the future, nor joy nor knowledge alive at the last,
It is vain, for the Silence is dowered with a nature, the seed of a name:
Necessity, fearfully flowered with the blossom of possible Aim.
I am Necessity? Scry Necessity mother of Fate!
And Fate determines me "I"; and I have the Will to create. Vast is the sphere, but it turns on itself like the pettiest star. And I am the looby that learns that all things equally are. Inscrutable Nothing, the Gods, the cosmos of Fire and of Mist.
Suns, atoms, the clouds and the clouds ineluctably dare to exist-
I have made the Voyage of Thought, the Voyage of Vision, I swam
To the heart of the Ocean of Naught from the source of the Spring of I am:
I know myself wholly the brother alike of the All and the One;
I know that all things are each other, that their sum and their substance is None;
But the knowledge itself can excel, its fulness hath broken its bond;
All's Truth, and all's falsehood as well, and-what of the region beyond?
So, still though I sit, as for ever, I stab to the heart of my spine;
I destroy the last seed of endeavour to seal up my soul in the shrine
Of Silence, Eternity, Peace; I abandon the Here and the Now;
I cease from the effort to cease; I absolve the dead I from its Vow,
I am wholly content to be dust, whether that be a mote or a star,
To live and to love and to lust, acknowledge what seem for what are,
Not to care what I am, if I be, whence I came, whither go, how I thrive,
If my spirit be bound or be free, save as Nature contrive. What I am, that I am, 'tis enough. I am part of a glorious game.
Am I cast for madness or love? I am cast to esteem them the same.
Am I only a dream in the sleep of some butterfly? Phantom of fright
Conceived, who knows how, or how deep, in the measureless womb of the night?
I imagine impossible thought, metaphysical voids that beget
Ideas intagible wrought to things less conceivable yet. It may be. Little I reck -but, assume the existence of earth.
Am I born to be hanged by the neck, a curse from the hour of my birth?
Am I born to abolish man's guilt? His horrible heritage, awe?
Or a seed in his wantoness spilt by a jester? I care not a straw,
For I understand Do what thou wilt; and that is the whole of the Law.
Wislawa Szymborska
THE RAILROAD STATION
My nonarrival in the city of N. took place on the dot.
You'd been alerted in my unmailed letter.
You were able not to be there at the agreed-upon time.
The train pulled up at platform 3. A lot of people got out.
My absence joined the throng as it made its way toward the exit.
Several women rushed to take my place in all that rush.
Somebody ran up to one of them. I didn't know him, but she recognized him immediately.
While they kissed with not our lips, a suitcase disappeared, not mine.
The railroad station in the city of N. passed its exam in objective existence with flying colors.
The whole remained in place. Particulars scurried along the designated tracks.
Even a rendezvous took place as planned.
Beyond the reach of our presence.
In the paradise lost of probability.
Somewhere else. Somewhere else. How these little words ring.
Didn't see Rumi in the list.
Edwin Arlington Robinson - Richard Cory
Patrick Kavanagh - Stony Grey Soil
[anyone lived in a pretty how town] (e.e. cummings):
To One In Paradise (Edgar Allen Poe):
Do not stand at my grave and weep (by Mary Elizabeth Frye):
I've been reading poetry ever since I read one by Cocteau that physically moved me. Yes, I felt it in my body, not only in my mind. Since then, I've read too many. Here are some of my favorites. Delve deep into the greats and then the lesser known, you'll find the ones that move you.
Fernando Pessoa (if he were a french or english poet, he would be considered, I have absolutely no doubt about it, one of the greatest poets to have ever written)
W.H. Auden
Robert Desnos
Homer
Ovid
I'm not that much of a fan of beat poetry, but I recently got a hold of Mexico City Blues by Kerouac and discovered how much more I like his poetry than his prose.
So many... but recently...
Shelley, Ozymandias:
Yeats, The Second Coming:
The Second Coming. It is beyond extraordinary. The power of the images is utterly breathtaking.
However, your version does not have the words of the poem as it's generally published. I've never seen your version. Italics below show the more common wording.
"When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi / Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert / A shape with lion body and the head of a man, / A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,..."
You're right... I copied it from the top search result (http://www.potw.org/archive/potw351.html), which seems to be the 1920 version. There have been others since, and Wikipedia uses the newer wording.
Anne Michaels, Skin Divers. I don't think I can publish this poem here (or the collection of poems it refers to), but I love her imagery.
She's also written prose, but she writes it in a way that sounds almost like poetry, full of metaphor and imagery.
"Passion not spent"
That's fantastic. Who wrote it?
I think he himself wrote that :) Caleb Madriga. and it is indeed fantastic :)
Op it seems. :-)
http://calebmadrigal.com/passion-not-spent/
Thanks :) Yes, it's a personal poem.
http://calebmadrigal.com/passion-not-spent/
he did
Checkout http://haiku.nytimes.com/
Sample Haiku:
Plath and Dorothy Parker, never could choose between them.
Eminem:
No more games, I'ma change what you call rage
Tear this motherfucking roof off like two dogs caged
I was playing in the beginning, the mood all changed
I've been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage
But I kept rhyming and stepped right into the next cypher
Best believe somebody's paying the pied piper
All the pain inside amplified by the fact
That I can't get by with my 9 to 5
And I can't provide the right type of life for my family
Cause man, these goddamn food stamps don't buy diapers
And it's no movie, there's no Mekhi Phifer, this is my life
And these times are so hard, and it's getting even harder
Trying to feed and water my seed, plus
Teeter totter caught up between being a father and a prima donna
Baby mama drama's screaming on and
Too much for me to wanna
Stay in one spot, another day of monotony
Has gotten me to the point, I'm like a snail
I've got to formulate a plot or I end up in jail or shot
Success is my only motherfucking option, failure's not
Mom, I love you, but this trailer's got to go
I cannot grow old in Salem's lot
So here I go it's my shot.
Feet, fail me not, this may be the only opportunity that I got
Eminem has written some really good lines. His play with words is just fantastic.
Major points for dropping rap lines. I like you.
I always come back to Frost's "The Road Not Taken"
I'm a Frost fan as well. My favorite is Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening.
Mine is:
Bukowski.
http://hellopoetry.com/charles-bukowski/
I'm not sure who the poet was, but here's an old Chinese poem that I love. My translation doesn't quite do it justice, but...
少小離家老大回 鄉音無改鬢毛衰 兒童相見不相識 笑問客從何處來
I left my hometown as a young boy and returned as an old man.
The local speech hadn't changed, but the hair on my head had.
The children looked at me but recognized me not.
Laughing, they asked from where this visitor had come.
Do you mind sharing the original author's name? It sounds gorgeous, but I can only read Japanese, so I'm not sure if I'm just completely wrong in getting the images from the Chinese.
Search engine yielded both the rest of the poem and the identity of the author.
少小離家老大回,鄉音無改鬢毛衰。 兒童相見不相識,笑問客從何處來。
(as above)
離別家鄉歲月多,近來人事半消磨。 惟有門前鏡湖水,春風不改舊時波。
I have left home for so long, society has lost its meaning. There are only the waters of Mirror Lake before the door, and the spring winds cannot change the ripples of the past. [my translation]
The author is Hè Zhīzhāng (賀知章), a Tang Dynasty poet. The poem comes from the second part of his book Images of Homecoming (回鄉偶書). He is one of the Eight Immortals of the Wine Cup (ie. alcohol-loving Tang poets): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Immortals_of_the_Wine_Cup
Coming from Japanese or modern Chinese you can use http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php to understand the relationships between words. Also try http://chinesenotes.com/classical_chinese.php for grammatical background. More Tang poems @ http://chinesenotes.com/classics.php
Thanks so much! I only got a brief overview of Chinese poetry in school, so getting to appreciate more is really awesome.
Can you recommend a good English-language collection of his works? The poem you wrote was amazing.
Jehst and Kate Tempest, for me they're mind bending
Wallace Stevens is a favorite of mine. His work has been described as "rigorous", which I would agree with. He is an inspiration to me due to his ability to straddle two worlds: his day job was mainly as an insurance executive, but he flowered late and won a Pulitzer for his poetry. I particularly like "The Emperor of Ice Cream":
The Snow Man is quite good:
This poem does in two stanzas at least part of what Hamlet does in five acts. It's even more brilliant once you 'decode' it, one of my favorites.
Of Mere Being
I love many poets and poetry.Two that I would like to share with HN commuity at this time would be - Rumi and Gulzar
Rumi said things like
Rumi: Meet you there
Rumi: Silence
Gulzar: Dil toh bachcha hai ji
Gulzar: Your name
Rumi - http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/875661.Rumi
Gulzar - http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10289313-selected-poems
I love it, mostly Rumi. It's like motivational poetry, for the nerds from 800 years ago.
And one of the best ones from Rumi
If you ever take a Sufi Islam class, it is introductions to quotes of Rumi like these that will ruin you forever.
God I love his work. There is a whole school of Sufi sects known as drunk Sufis, drunk on their love of God, so to speak, and Rumi is a fantastic artistic characterization of their mindset.
"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I'll meet you there."
This is one of my favorite quotes - first came across it while reading "And the Mountains Echoed". I'll definitely have to check out more of Rumi's works.
Yeah. I first thought it was from some Pamuk, but, no, you're right.
I absolutely agree. He is a true poet. He started his career in 1957 and he is still going! And the amazing thing about his poetry is that it caters to everyone. I and my father both enjoy listening to his poems(see the age difference) and it never gets old!
I only discovered Rumi relatively recently, but it was quite a revelation. This one really struck a chord with me:
https://gist.github.com/benshimmin/8da42a687eae6e47f30d
(Yes, putting poetry in a GitHub Gist seems weird, but at least I know it won't disappear in a hurry.)
This guy reads a lot of poems and I like his voice:
https://www.youtube.com/user/spokenverse/videos?sort=dd&shel...
Yes I know that doesn't answer your question. I've been reading and enjoying John Clare the past few days. One of his poems, read by the guy above, is in this video: https://vimeo.com/121024561 I love the poem and the music but I don't think the footage connects that well.
Vincas Mykolaitis-Putinas
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincas_Mykolaitis-Putinas
Goethe is fine too, and some Russian poets.
I'm from England but I gladly concede that the best poetry tends to come from countries east of my own.
Angus O'Reilly O'Patrick McGinney.
Great thread.
(http://www.onbeing.org/program/wild-love-world/feature/go-li...)
Belfast man checking in, poetry is one of the main traditions here and has a thriving local community, so I thought I would recommend some of my favourites from this part of the world.
Paul Muldoon,
Maybe something of a "poet's poet" but certainly worth checking out. His style is a casual one, but bursts with sidelong allusions to history, literature, art and etymological punnery. Perhaps of particular interest to people here, might be his novel-length poem Madoc, an hallucinogenic journey through time and place, in which "[he] supposes that Samuel Taylor Coleridge and Robert Southey took up their (actual) fancy of founding a Pantisocratic community in North America."
Ciaran Carson,
Took a break from writing through most of the 70s to travel with his wife playing traditional music and steep himself in the Irish storytelling tradition. His books since then have been an, at time excitingly precarious, marriage of traditional storytelling and a modernist mock pedanticism. Worth checking out is his Belfast Confetti, a mix of essays and poems which explore the psychological relationship one has to one's city.
Leontia Flynn, A much younger poet, of the generation of artists who have had to deal with adapting to life and working in the 21st Century. Her last book, from 2011, Profit & Loss is a striking meditation on the changing role of memory in pre- and post- Internet society.
And for something different that I would particularly recommend to the HN crowd,
Sam Riviere,
An English poet of the current generation who deals with the cognitive fallout of the ever varied linguistic and cultural deluge one experiences day to day in 2015. I don't want to say too much about his writing as he is still so young, but certainly seek out his latest book, Kim Kardashian's Marriage.
The poetic reference to Rome being better than Rome reminds me of Edmund Spenser's adaptation of Bellay's poem about Rome. http://www.bartleby.com/153/23.html
I think the most famous stanza (an excerpt from a much, much longer poem) is
Bellay (and Spenser) claim that the only city that was ultimately able to conquer ancient Rome is ... modern Rome. I found that a striking observation.
"Without haste, but without rest."
"The only means to gain one's ends with people are force and cunning. Love also, they say, but that is to wait for sunshine, and life needs every moment."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Kendrick Lamar:
Сергей Есенин and Immortal Technique:
millay and kipling. very different poets, but both resonate very strongly with me.
Definitely, Brodsky. Unfortunately, not many of his poems were written in English, and only a few were translated.
Hehehehehe.
Charles Baudelaire.
John Milton Thomas Campion Samuel Taylor Coleridge Robert Bridges Ted Hughes Seamus Heaney Charles Baudelaire Paul Verlaine Edgar Allan Poe
... just for fun Clark Ashton Smith for projecting a Lovecraftian view of the cosmos into poetic form.
Hart Crane, far and away...
Ted Hughes's Metamorphosis. Such a sick translation of Ovid.
My ex-girlfriend (not Portuguese) when she wanted to "paper cut me" used to say that every Portuguese is a poet. Seeing Portugal with the distance of an expat this is (un)fortunately true.
The most relevant of us is certainly Fernando Pessoa.[1]
[1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Pessoa
Keith Douglas ww2 war poet
"The noble horse with courage in his eye, clean in the bone, looks up at a shellburst: away fly the images of the shires but he puts the pipe back in his mouth. Peter was unfortunately killed by an 88; it took his leg away, he died in the ambulance. I saw him crawling on the sand, he said It's most unfair, they've shot my foot off."
David Huerta is one of my all time favourites. Check out "Abres y Cierras" (Open and Close)[1]
http://www.beforesaying.com/images2/Open%20and%20Close%20(En...
Thats a tough question to answer. Between bukowsky , Edgar Alan Poe, Shakespeare, a few of miltons work, Gulzar, Tolkien, you can imagine the choice to be tough! But here is an unlikely candidate I find particularly interesting because of his simplicity and yet intricacy of expression. Vikram Seth. His work "golden gate" is just a masterpiece with so many hidden gems. To have a story spannig a good 700pages in verse itself is astounding. Here are some of his smaller beauties
Awake
And this, which happens to be the name of the small book of his selected short poems
PS: pardon the bad formatting. Long form text entry via a tiny screen is still a pain point :)
Dean Young. Elegy on Toy Piano is a phenomenal book.
A correspondence:
Python - Robert Frost
Ruby (Matz) - Kay Ryan
Ruby (dhh) - Fred Seidel
JavaScript - e e cummings
Brainfuck - John Ashbery
Java - Auden
C - Shakespeare
Haskell - Anne Carson
Pascal - Longfellow
I really don't know what to do with this. It's from a Spanish poet, I discovered it in French and got to prefer the Spanish original. I haven't been able to find the English translation.
Of course it's Spanish and about sex, indirectly. I think I prefer the German poets and their poems about nature, the human struggle, etc. (I'm sure someone will provide some examples of German poets that write about sex)
My favorite single book of poetry was actually written by my best friend. It's called God's Livestovk Policy, and it's a completely brilliant commentary on how we relate to each other and power figures. It's brutally funny as well as beatiful language.
http://www.lesfigues.com/book/gods-livestock-policy/
Other than that, I'm a huge fan of romantic era German poetry. Heine's Wenn ich in deine Augen seh is haunting
Wenn ich in deine Augen seh, So schwindet all mein Leid und Weh; Doch wenn ich küsse deinen Mund, So werd ich ganz und gar gerund.
Wenn ich mich lehn an deine Brust, Kommts über mich wie Himmelslust; Doch wenn du sprichst: Ich liebe dich! So muß ich weinen bitterlich.
Sergei Yesenin
1) Catullus 2) Robinson Jeffers 3) Rimbaud 4) Shakespeare
Catullus is the greatest, though.
I'm partial to Larkin and Heaney, but I have to say my favourite poem is this one by Lawrence Raab -
Hilarious, sad, and sweet. It wasn't until decades after I first read this that I found out that this wasn't just metaphor, it's pretty much an accurate synopsis of the Roger Corman film of the same name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_Shabistari
THE ROAD TO WISDOM
The road to wisdom? -- Well, it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again but less and less and less.
~Piet Hein
I've always been fond of Albert Goldbarths' "Budget Travel Through Time and Space". He's an old timer with modern sensibilities, narratives that criss-cross eras with ease and a cosmological perspective. Science is inflected in a lot of his work.
"The Sciences Sing a Lullabye"
Physics says: go to sleep. Of course you’re tired. Every atom in you has been dancing the shimmy in silver shoes nonstop from mitosis to now. Quit tapping your feet. They’ll dance inside themselves without you. Go to sleep.
Geology says: it will be all right. Slow inch by inch America is giving itself to the ocean. Go to sleep. Let darkness lap at your sides. Give darkness an inch. You aren’t alone. All of the continents used to be one body. You aren’t alone. Go to sleep.
Astronomy says: the sun will rise tomorrow, Zoology says: on rainbow-fish and lithe gazelle, Psychology says: but first it has to be night, so Biology says: the body-clocks are stopped all over town and History says: here are the blankets, layer on layer, down and down.
It's a lot more metaphorical and more fanciful but there's "Evolution" by Langdon Smith: https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/int/evolution.html
How do I format text like that on HN? Use <pre> tags?
Two spaces in front of each line should work.
I like Rimbaud quite a lot:
Another:
These are translated from the French by Wallace Fowlie.
Rimbaud: “Jadis, si je me souviens bien, ma vie était un festin où s'ouvraient tous les coeurs, où tous les vins coulaient.”
Wilfred Owen:
Parable of the Old Man and the Young
DULCE ET DECORUM EST
Smile, Smile, Smile
A more pleasant piece by Sir Philip Sydney:
Shel Silverstein [0] has been on my bookshelf. I enjoyed reading Falling Up [1] as a way to help my kids understand that poetry is more than rhyming.
From The Little Boy And the Old Man [2]:
Said the little boy, "Sometimes I drop my spoon."
Said the old man, "I do that too."
The little boy whispered, "I wet my pants."
"I do that too," laughed the little old man.
Said the little boy, "I often cry."
The old man nodded, "So do I."
"But worst of all," said the boy, "it seems Grown-ups don't pay attention to me."
And he felt the warmth of a wrinkled old hand. "I know what you mean," said the little old man.
[0] http://www.shelsilverstein.com/
[1] http://www.shelsilverstein.com/books/falling/
[2] http://www.poetrysoup.com/famous/poems/best/shel_silverstein
Philip Larkin has been mentioned already in this thread. The following two poems by Larkin inspire me in a backwards sort of way.
This first one, "Next, Please" reminds me that we can't just wait for something amazing to happen in our lives, thinking that some day it surely will all on its own. We need to be proactive and make things happen.
Second is Larkin's Poem "To Failure", which remindes me that I likely will not fail spectacularly, but slowly everyday, almost without notice, when I let the day slip away without achieving at least one small step towards a goal.
Finally, as technical people, we can get so absorbed in what we are doing that we forget the importance of fostering the relationships around us with those we love:
I have this one tacked up on my wall. Not only is it inspirational, but I am impressed by the syllabic structure of the poem (alternating 11/10 syllables, iambic). Having never really studied poetry before, I found this really cool.
If, by Rudyard Kipling
Images by Tyrone Green
Dark and lonely on a summer's night.
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L my land lord!
(as performed by Eddie Murphy on SNL)
Gerard Manley Hopkins: God’s Grandeur
I don't actually liken the poem to god's grandeur... more the seemingly unending bounty of the world, and its perseverance in spite of a harsh and unforgiving universe.
I love this poem. It's also one of my favorites. As a non-religious person, the poem inspires me to always look for hope, no matter what. Thanks for posting!
I think the highest forum of poetry is the double-dactyl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dactyl).
Here's one I wrote in 2010 about reddit:
Don't forget the clerihew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew
I once wrote one about Jon Johansen (although that was only my second-best-known poem about him).
Robinson Jeffers!
You can visit the stone Tor House in Carmel, just 90 minutes south of the SF Bay Area:
http://www.torhouse.org/
~ ~ ~ ~
The Beauty of Things
To feel and speak the astonishing beauty of things — earth, stone and water, Beast, man and woman, sun, moon and stars — The blood-shot beauty of human nature, its thoughts, frenzies and passions, And unhuman nature its towering reality — For man’s half dream; man, you might say, is nature dreaming, but rock And water and sky are constant — to feel Greatly, and understand greatly, and express greatly, the natural Beauty, is the sole business of poetry. The rest’s diversion: those holy or noble sentiments, the intricate ideas, The love, lust, longing: reasons, but not the reason.
For people who live in Brooklyn or have connections to it, you might be interested in Walt Whitman's "Crossing Brooklyn Ferry" where he emphasizes his power to, through his poetry, be mentally or spiritually united with future generations crossing the East River:
http://www.bartleby.com/142/86.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_Brooklyn_Ferry
It's one of the more intensely second-person poems I've come across, with its repeated focus on the reader's presence and what the reader has in common with the poet.
I learned about this poem from the novel 10:04 by Ben Lerner, in which it figures prominently. The novel is an interesting meditation on nostalgia, modernity, introspection, and being a writer (although I fear readers might like it much less if they don't share some of the author's nostalgias).
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/books/review/1004-by-ben-l...
I love Kipling, especially his more humorous work. Case in point:
All the "classics" have been listed already, so I'll mention someone more modern who I think programmers would enjoy: Christian Bök. Check out Crystallography and Eunoia.
So many. To name a few:
Marge Piercy (see below)
Robert Frost (if you read him carefully)
Philip Larkin
William Stafford
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To be of use – by Marge Piercy
http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php?date=2006/09....
HW Longfellow : Psalm of life Rudyard kipling; If
Galway Kinnell
Just had to add my favorite, William Carlos Williams:
You should all subscribe to the writers almanac podcast. A free poem & other good stuff in < 5 minutes every day. http://writersalmanac.org/podcast/
Did a quick search for a few poets (the usual, Robert Creeley, William Carlos Williams, George Oppen, Lorraine Neidecker, Robert Zukofsky), thinking about trying to champion at least one of them (Neidecker, probably).
Then I remembered, this is hacker news, these are programmers. Before I was a programmer, I was a poet and a poetry teacher. One of the things that started drawing me towards programming and technology were poets like bpNichol and his fantastic "First Screening". He wrote it on an Apple IIe using BASIC in 83-84 and folks have been "translating" it throughout the past 30 years to keep it accessible on newer PCs.
There's a lot of poetry and hacker ethos coming together to keep this little gem alive:
I recommend the .mov[1] version as the Javascript[2] version is a bit too nice (fonts, no flickering, etc), but you can also run the original code[3] in an emulator.
Or, for an entirely different experience, read the source code[4].
Read all about it here: http://vispo.com/bp/introduction.htm
1: http://vispo.com/bp/firstscreening.mov
2: http://vispo.com/bp/first-screening-javascript-version/first...
3: http://vispo.com/bp/emulatedversion.htm
4: http://vispo.com/bp/download/FirstScreeningBybpNichol.txt
Some non-English poets:
Faiz: Your feet bleed, Faiz, something surely will bloom as you water the desert simply by walking through it.
Ahmad Faraz: ... All those with outspoken mouths have become torn bodies. Those with unbowed heads have been led to the gallows and the rope.
All the Sufis and saints, every Sheikh and Imam hope to find favour at the court of the rulers. The dignitaries of the law courts wait to take oaths like beggars squatting at the side of the road. ... Look at the principles of those unworldly loyalists who are with you look around! So the condition of saving your life is to place your pen and slate in the killing fields. If not you will be the only target of the archers this time. Therefore surrender your integrity. Seeing the treaty I spoke to the messenger. He does not know what history teaches. When the night martyrs the sun the morning sculpts a new one. ... My pen does not commend that protector who is proud of besieging his own city. My pen is not the bowl of the simple fool who renders praise-poems to the usurpers.
My pen is not the tool of the housebreaker who makes a hole in the roof of his own home. My pen is not the friend of the midnight thief who scales the walls of lamp less houses.
My pen is not the prayer beads of the missionary who always keeps account of his worshipful deeds. My pen is not the scale of the judge who places a double veil over his face.
My pen is the pious gift of my people. My pen is the court of my conscience. ...
Houellebecq:
David E. Howerton. He's not well known but one of my favorites.
And the translation:
what on earth language is that?
It's Klingon.
Poems > Poets
"The Abnormal is Not Courage"
The Poles rode out from Warsaw against the German tanks on horses. Rode knowing, in sunlight, with sabers, A magnitude of beauty that allows me no peace. And yet this poem would lessen that day.
Question the bravery. Say it's not courage. Call it a passion. Would say courage isn't that. Not at its best. It was impossible, and with form. They rode in sunlight, Were mangled.
But I say courage is not the abnormal. Not the marvelous act. Not Macbeth with fine speeches. The worthless can manage in public, or for the moment. It is too near the whore's heart: the bounty of impulse, And the failure to sustain even small kindness. Not the marvelous act, but the evident conclusion of being. Not strangeness, but a leap forward of the same quality.
Accomplishment. The even loyalty. But fresh. Not the Prodigal Son, nor Faustus. But Penelope. The thing steady and clear. Then the crescendo.
The real form. The culmination. And the exceeding. Not the surprise. The amazed understanding. The marriage, Not the month's rapture. Not the exception. The beauty That is of many days. Steady and clear.
It is the normal excellence, of long accomplishment.
-Jack Gilbert
Minor disclaimer - the incident this poem is about had not happened. It's German war propaganda.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_at_Krojanty
Not that it matters for poetry.
Lots of other people have suggested Neruda, which makes me happy, because he's fantastic.
I think my favorite poem is probably "Under Milk Wood", by Dylan Thomas (folks have posted some of his other work, which sheepishly I don't really like). I love this poem so much that even hearing it in a VW ad didn't diminish it. It's quite long, but the beginning is my favorite part:
Another good one by Philip Larkin:
Vers de Société
My wife and I have asked a crowd of craps To come and waste their time and ours: perhaps You’d care to join us? In a pig’s arse, friend. Day comes to an end. The gas fire breathes, the trees are darkly swayed. And so Dear Warlock-Williams: I’m afraid—
Funny how hard it is to be alone. I could spend half my evenings, if I wanted, Holding a glass of washing sherry, canted Over to catch the drivel of some bitch Who’s read nothing but Which; Just think of all the spare time that has flown
Straight into nothingness by being filled With forks and faces, rather than repaid Under a lamp, hearing the noise of wind, And looking out to see the moon thinned To an air-sharpened blade. A life, and yet how sternly it’s instilled
All solitude is selfish. No one now Believes the hermit with his gown and dish Talking to God (who’s gone too); the big wish Is to have people nice to you, which means Doing it back somehow. Virtue is social. Are, then, these routines
Playing at goodness, like going to church? Something that bores us, something we don’t do well (Asking that ass about his fool research) But try to feel, because, however crudely, It shows us what should be? Too subtle, that. Too decent, too. Oh hell,
Only the young can be alone freely. The time is shorter now for company, And sitting by a lamp more often brings Not peace, but other things. Beyond the light stand failure and remorse Whispering Dear Warlock-Williams: Why, of course—
WH Auden. I can't quote, but he has a poem in which he is thankful for a well developed super ego. I wanted to find a poem of his for our wedding, but he is too cynical even as he is moral.
Simon Armitage. Lovely northern English rhythms.
http://simonarmitage.com/
My Party Piece from Book of Matches
George Herbert, Du Fu, T S Eliot, Ezra Pound, Wm Blake, WB Yeats, Li Po, Mallarme, 2 Dylans, Dante, Sappho, Homer
Great thread. Emily Dickinson
Charles Bukowski: All The Way, one of the most motivational poem i have experienced in life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6_QUhUPrF4
poet Matsuo Basho
Almost all of the poetry I know well came from a single audio collection that I was happily exposed to many years ago; it's called Exact Change and each track is still available on the U.Penn web site [0]. All of the poets are well-known in their fields, some well-known enough to be known to the public, and I have wound up taking many to heart. Among my favorites are the ones by Jack Spicer, John Godfrey, and Kamau Brathwaite. Take a moment to listen, it's very revealing to hear a poem read by its author.
[0] http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Exact-Change.html
Pablo Neruda, Nicanor Parra and Pablo Picasso (he wrote great prose poems). I also like Fransisco de Quevedo and Miguel de Cervantes (yes, Cervantes was also a poet).
John Peale Bishop is pretty hilarious:
Philip Larkin. Kate Tempest.
As I age, I grow ever fonder of Tennyson, particularly his "Ulysses", from which:
...Come, my friends, 'T is not too late to seek a newer world. Push off, and sitting well in order smite The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths Of all the western stars, until I die. It may be that the gulfs will wash us down: It may be we shall touch the Happy Isles, And see the great Achilles, whom we knew. Tho' much is taken, much abides; and tho' We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/174659
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Stephen Crane
Wislawa Syzmborska, for me. When lighthearted, she has depth, and when dark, she keeps a glimmer of light.
I am fond of alliterative poetry, and I think this poem is relevant to HN:
http://alliteration.net/poetry/website.htm
Georg Trakl, an austrian.
The following was written a few days before his death and is an expression of his experience as a medic after the battle of Gródek in the first world war (translated from german by Eric Plattner & Joseph Suglia):
Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard by Thomas Gray http://www.thomasgray.org/cgi-bin/display.cgi?text=elcc
Gerard Manley Hopkins[1], G.K. Chesterton[2] and John Bradburne[3].
There are a couple of rare recordings of John Bradburne reciting his own poetry[4]. Much of his work was completely unknown until after his death in 1979 – he wrote about 6,000 poems.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Manley_Hopkins
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton
[3] http://www.johnbradburnepoems.com/
[4] http://vimeo.com/michaelbradleyjr/love
[&] http://vimeo.com/michaelbradleyjr/mombe
From Westerners, Raymond Carver, he is just plain raw. I like that. From east, Molana Rumi, Sohrab Sepehri.
Edna St. Vincent Millay is certainly one of my favorites. Here's one:
I like extended figures, but also sumptuous language and formal rigor. Ah heck, I love each poet for their own quirks and idiosyncrasies. Stephen Dobyns. John Bricuth. Wallace Stevens. Weldon Kees.
Shakespeare. Donne. Marvell.
Poetry often goes way beyond just the naked words. Understanding the context around the writer, including background on his or her place and time matters a lot.
In this sense, this amazing iOS app completely changed my understanding of T.S. Eliot and his classic "The Waste of the Land": https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-waste-land/id427434046?m...
Highly recommended. It makes it pretty obvious that there is still so much opportunity to do more things with augmented content.
Aehm, it's "The Waste Land".
You're right, sorry for the typo
Seems appropriate about now:
Spring, by Edna St Vincent Millay.
To what purpose, April, do you return again?
Beauty is not enough.
You can no longer quiet me with the redness
Of little leaves opening stickily.
I know what I know.
The sun is hot on my neck as I observe
The spikes of the crocus.
The smell of the earth is good.
It is apparent that there is no death.
But what does that signify?
Not only under ground are the brains of men
Eaten by maggots,
Life in itself
Is nothing,
An empty cup, a flight of uncarpeted stairs.
It is not enough that yearly, down this hill,
April
Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers.
Clouds Gathering by Charles Simic
Japan by Billy Collins
“You may forget but let me tell you this: someone in some future time will think of us” ― Sappho, The Art of Loving Women
Charles Bukowski, Leonard Cohen, and a lot of poets in another language that few people on here will know.
Favourite? I don't know... Blake? Poe? Various Japanese classics? Currently reading "Paradise Lost" by Milton. But what I've probably listened to most, lately, is Kate Tempest:
It's interesting to see that many seem to have fallen in love with poetry that's been translated to English. While there's nothing wrong with translation, I do think it is a little curious that some seem to prefer translated poetry, to native language authors (Much as it'd be a bit curious to hold up Blake as one's favourite poet in Spanish). At least one should make note of not just the original author, but also the translator -- as the end result is very much a team effort.
[edit: Somewhat apropos, perhaps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DktpzYOHTXo ]
Rudyard Kipling, William Wordsworth, Edgar Allan Poe
William Wordsworth, Edgar Allan Poe and Rudyard Kipling
elicura chihuailaf
Baudelaire, a une passante:
Hovis Presley is my favourite:
I rely on you
I rely on you like a Skoda needs suspension like the aged need a pension like a trampoline needs tension like a bungee jump needs apprehension I rely on you like a camera needs a shutter like a gambler needs a flutter like a golfer needs a putter like a buttered scone involves some butter I rely on you like an acrobat needs ice cool nerve like a hairpin needs a drastic curve like an HGV needs endless derv like an outside left needs a body swerve I rely on you like a handyman needs pliers like an auctioneer needs buyers like a laundromat needs driers like The Good Life needed Richard Briers I rely on you like a water vole needs water like a brick outhouse needs mortar like a lemming to the slaughter Ryan's just Ryan without his daughter I rely on you
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
I've been reading a lot of Aleksa Šantić for the past few years, but I haven't seen any translations to English that really do him justice (not that I've been looking for them).
This entry contains links to articles explaining some of the more archaic words:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emina_%28poem%29
I adore the nonsense poems of Edward Lear. He's most famous for The Owl and The Pussycat, but The Nutcracker and The Sugartongs is one of my favourites to read aloud: http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/nutcrackers.html
When read aloud, the rhythm is impeccable and almost addictive.
Another shout out has to go to A A Milne, particularly for Disobedience, which again is a delight to read aloud: http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~ridge/local/disobedience.html
Recently been into Bukowski, alongside Shelley, Frost and Tennyson remain favs
I met a traveler from an antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal these words appear: “My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!” Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
– Percy Shelley
if you’re going to try, go all the way. otherwise, don’t even start.
if you’re going to try, go all the way. this could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives, jobs and maybe your mind.
go all the way. it could mean not eating for 3 or 4 days. it could mean freezing on a park bench. it could mean jail, it could mean derision, mockery, isolation. isolation is the gift, all the others are a test of your endurance, of how much you really want to do it. and you’ll do it despite rejection and the worst odds and it will be better than anything else you can imagine.
if you’re going to try, go all the way. there is no other feeling like that. you will be alone with the gods and the nights will flame with fire.
do it, do it, do it. do it.
all the way all the way.
you will ride life straight to perfect laughter, its the only good fight there is.
I've always enjoyed the Jabberwocky by Lewis Carroll. It is full of emotive gibberish that creates wonderful imagery and feeling out of meaningless sounds. Which is all poetry really is in the end!
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.
“Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!”
He took his vorpal sword in hand; Long time the manxome foe he sought— So rested he by the Tumtum tree And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back.
“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!” He chortled in his joy.
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.
- Ingrid Jonker
The poem is in Afrikaans and the poet is South African.
For those who are interested, an English language Dutch film about her was made a few years ago called Black Butterflies.
I can however not say that I have seen any translations that do justice to the original.
MY PRAYER ANSWERED
I asked for Strength,
God gave me difficulties to face.
I asked for Wisdom,
God gave me problems to solve.
I asked for Courage,
God gave me danger to overcome.
I asked for Love,
God gave me troubled people to help.
I asked for Favours,
God gave me opportunities.
I received nothing I wanted;
I received everything I needed.
My PRAYER has been answered.
-Vedanta Kesari
Adam Asnyk - "Daremne żale"
I love the rhytm of this poem. My rough translation.
Also Jacek Kaczmarski songs are great. And I loved the poems in Stanisław Lem "Cyberiad". Translated by Michael Kandel.
Zbigniew Herbert.
http://wchambliss.tumblr.com/post/107743541105/apollo-and-ma...
http://www.poemhunter.com/best-poems/zbigniew-herbert/why-th...
https://books.google.pl/books?id=nqeWAwAAQBAJ&printsec=front...
Czeslaw Milosz. "Gift" [1] and "A Song on the End of the World" [2].
Philip Larkin. Almost everything he wrote.
Robert Frost.
Ted Hughes. The Birthday Letters. Esp. "You Hated Spain" [3]
T S Elliot. Four Quartets. Preludes.
[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17245-2004Aug...
[2] http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/179559
[3] https://philosopherpoet.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/you-hated-s...
While hardly a pleasant person himself, Berthold Brecht had some compelling ones (especially as an antidote for all the roses and moons and lips ;))
Noah Warren - http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poem/248624
Goethe (german), here's a translation of the Zauberlehrling (The Sorcerer's Apprentice)
The recently passed Tomas Tranströmer, I love his writing. He can go from personal headspace to outer space in a cherry blossom in a moment during a car crash:
--
Hovis Presley:
I rely on you
I rely on you
like a Skoda needs suspension
like the aged need a pension
like a trampoline needs tension
like a bungee jump needs apprehension
I rely on you
like a camera needs a shutter
like a gambler needs a flutter
like a golfer needs a putter
like a buttered scone involves some butter
I rely on you
like an acrobat needs ice cool nerve
like a hairpin needs a drastic curve
like an HGV needs endless derv
like an outside left needs a body swerve
I rely on you
like a handyman needs pliers
like an auctioneer needs buyers
like a laundromat needs driers
like The Good Life needed Richard Briers
I rely on you
like a water vole needs water
like a brick outhouse needs mortar
like a lemming to the slaughter
Ryan's just Ryan without his daughter
I rely on you
Rumi (on Conscience)
This that we are now created the body, cell by cell, like bees building a honeycomb.
The human body and the universe grew from this, not this from the universe and the human body.
... and Allen Ginsberg
Happy indeed we live, friendly amidst the hostile. Amidst hostile men we dwell free from hatred.
Happy indeed we live, friendly amidst the afflicted (by craving). Amidst afflicted men we dwell free from affliction.
Happy indeed we live, free from avarice amidst the avaricious. Amidst the avaricious men we dwell free from avarice.
Happy indeed we live, we who possess nothing. Feeders on joy we shall be, like the Radiant Gods.
Victory begets enmity; the defeated dwell in pain. Happily the peaceful live, discarding both victory and defeat.
There is no fire like lust and no crime like hatred. There is no ill like the aggregates (of existence) and no bliss higher than the peace (of Nibbana). [17]
Hunger is the worst disease, conditioned things the worst suffering. Knowing this as it really is, the wise realize Nibbana, the highest bliss.
Health is the most precious gain and contentment the greatest wealth. A trustworthy person is the best kinsman, Nibbana the highest bliss.
Having savored the taste of solitude and peace (of Nibbana), pain-free and stainless he becomes, drinking deep the taste of the bliss of the Truth.
Good is it to see the Noble Ones; to live with them is ever blissful. One will always be happy by not encountering fools.
Indeed, he who moves in the company of fools grieves for longing. Association with fools is ever painful, like partnership with an enemy. But association with the wise is happy, like meeting one's own kinsmen.
Therefore, follow the Noble One, who is steadfast, wise, learned, dutiful and devout. One should follow only such a man, who is truly good and discerning, even as the moon follows the path of the stars.
-- Sukhavagga: Happiness http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.15.budd.h...
Ogden Nash, for his skill in turning pain into absurdity
William Blake - The Marriage of Heaven and Hell
Lots of good poets already mentioned so I should mention Alexander Blok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Blok
Unfortunately, the English translations are not really as moving as Russian originals.
Dambudzo Marechera - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dambudzo_Marechera
THE BAR-STOOL EDIBLE WORM
THERE’S A DISSIDENT IN THE ELECTION SOUP!
SHOCK: FOR BETTINA
Langston Hughes is the only poet to get me interested in poetry. I'm surprised that not a single other person here has mentioned him. Perhaps I shouldn't be.
Some really inspiring versification in here, and it would be difficult to surpass the aesthetic and philosophic achievements already mentioned.
However, for sheer technical brilliance, perhaps a word should be said for the ElectroBard from Stanislaw Lem's Cyberiad, whose verbal virtuosity was such that when challenged:
“compose a poem- a poem about a haircut! But lofty, tragic, timeless, full of love, treachery, retribution, quiet heroism in the face of certain doom! Six lines, cleverly rhymed, and every word beginning with the letter S!!"
the response was instant:
... and if you think that's good, just imagine how great it was before being translated into English! (By Michael Kandel iirc)
Nicanor Parra
Sekou Sundiata blew my mind when I was introduced to his work in the mid-90s. To me he's the bridge from Ginsberg, kerouac, Boroughs etc to more modern stuff like Saul Williams, Buddy Wakefield, etc
Rumi, Bukowski, Gibran, Poe.
One of my favourite poems is by Charles Bukowski and it has this wonderful recursive quality to it. It's called "Oh Yes".
there are worse things than being along but it often takes decades to realize this and most often when you do it's too late and there's nothing worse than too late.
Henry David Thoreau & Walt Whitman
Nature Poem by Henry David Thoreau
Pioneers! O Pioneers! by Walt Whitman
It's a long one so here is the first part:
A physicist's poem:
To wonder as we wander through this world of mysteries many, is to fulfill the purpose of man's creation and destiny; and he who does not wonder, or the mysteries have not moved, should be interred in the dampest earth, for he is dead and never lived. (Source: the author of a very old Penguin book I once had on relativity)
http://www.brainpickings.org/2013/07/12/buckminster-fuller-e...
I love Bukowski's "Pulled Down Shade"
"what I like about you she told me is that you're crude -- look at you sitting there a beercan in your hand and a cigar in your mouth and look at your dirty hairy belly sticking out from under your shirt. you've got your shoes off and you've got a hole in your right stocking with the big toe sticking out. you haven't shaved in 4 or 5 days. your teeth are yellow and your eyebrows hang down all twisted and you've got enough scars to scare the shit out of anybody. there's always a ring in your bathtub your telephone is covered with grease and half the crap in your refrigerator is rotten. you never wash your car. you've got newspapers a week old on the floor. you read dirty magazines and you don't have a tv but you order deliveries from the liquor store and you tip good. and best of all you don't push a woman to go to bed with you. you seem hardly interested and when I talk to you you don't say anything you just look around the room or scratch your neck like you don't hear me. you've got an old wet towel in the sink and a photo of Mussolini on the wall and you never complain about anything and you never ask questions and I've known you for 6 months but I have no idea who you are. you're like some pulled down shade but that's what I like about you: your crudeness: a woman can drop out of your life and forget you real fast. a woman can't go anywhere but UP after leaving you, honey. you've got to be the best thing that ever happened to a girl who's between one guy and the next and has nothing to do at the moment. this fucking Scotch is great. let's play Scrabble."
Favourite poets: Rumi, Neruda, Herrick, Byron, Keats, Frost...
Hafez, Rumi, Adunis, Paz, Forough, Elliot, Qabbani, Passolini, Lorca, Ginsberg, Blake. :)
Loving the discovery of poets here.
I'd like to point out: http://www.reddit.com/user/Poem_for_your_sprog
All the comments he/she posts are poems in response to the post or comment. The comments usually are guilded.
L'infinito - Giacomo Leopardi
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~mdt26/poems/leopardi1.html
Robert Frost
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.
Leon DeGreiff http://www.banrepcultural.org/blaavirtual/literatura/antolo/...