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(ABCL) - Common Lisp on the JVM

25 pointsby 17y agocommon-lisp.net
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17y agoHN ↗

It's different in that, being common lisp, it's actually useless. Might be fun to tinker, tho, with its CLOS and stuff.

17y agoHN ↗

Useless how?

It has all the relevant constructs you'd need and more. And it runs on a JVM with access to Java lower level libraries.

Far from useless I'd say.

17y agoHN ↗

Clojure is two years old and already has more useful software being written in than CL.

CL is a failure, admit it.

17y agoHN ↗

already has more useful software being written in than CL.

Like what? Those crippled Java wrappers?

CL is a failure, admit it.

You are a failure, admit it. Since you are not popular (I don't know who you are), you are useless. (Your broken logic in practice.)

17y agoHN ↗

Nope it isn't.

I've heard about CL, know a few things about it, and it's a failure nontheless.

Its problem isn't the unpopularity between Blub programmers; its problem is its unpopularity even between geeks. Even language geeks!

17y agoHN ↗

So, you have "heard", really, I am amazed. You must really know a lot about it.

Repeating your broken popularity based measurement applied to different group of people does not make it any more correct, sorry.

17y agoHN ↗

ilyak is incorrect, but I'm curious why you feel popularity has anything to do with it.

17y agoHN ↗

Clojure is a dialect of Lisp, it's not Common Lisp. Scheme, Clojure, and Common Lisp are all very different beasts.

17y agoHN ↗

It's several years older and implements the standardized language Common Lisp.

17y agoHN ↗

A bit off topic, check out JScheme http://norvig.com/jscheme.html a Scheme implementation for the JVM.

Peter Norving wrote it initially as a way to learn Java in 1998. So he decided he'd write Scheme implementation in Java in couple of hours.(I swear, his Java code still looks better than mine today and he wrote it 11 years ago. :))

I see loads of code in JScheme that could have influenced Clojure to some degree.