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The Advisory Group on Mathematics and Artificial Intelligence

24 pointsby 1h agoterrytao.wordpress.com
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26m agoHN ↗

I knew mathematicians were a smart bunch, but honestly, the events of the past few weeks have really given me a new level of respect for them.

They might be the first community I've seen to experience the AI "rush" and (at least as presented to an outside observer) immediately come together, assess the situation, and calmly, empathetically, and rationally act. They evaluated what AI is good at and what it lacks. They've thought through how it'll likely affect their field in the future. They've explained where the need for humans still lies, and made clear proposals for how to change their own field and for what demands to make of AI companies. Of course they're not all on the same page, but they're at least talking and trying.

They haven't started worshipping the machine god and loudly claiming their whole field is solved. Nor have they flailed wildly at LLMs as if complaining enough about it will make them go away.

Every major statement I've seen come out of the math community on this matter reads as well thought-through, humble, reasoned, and deeply human.

In these days of fear, uncertainty, and obsolescence anxiety, honestly, they've given me some confidence that maybe we will figure this stuff out after all. Maybe we'll learn from them. Who knows.

20m agoHN ↗

Agreed.

Their field is extremely rigorous. As rigorous as it can possibly get in that they have to prove each and every line of their work beyond any doubt. The discipline they have cultivated in their culture shows in their response to AI as well.

As opposed to some other fields in which rigor was either not part of the culture or was not always possible. For e.g., software engineering in terms of code quality being produced. There were some indirect signals here and there but they are all subjective.

18m agoHN ↗

Every major statement I've seen come out of the math community on this matter reads as well thought-through, humble, reasoned, and deeply human.

Can't disagree with "deeply human", but I wouldn't always use it in a positive sense:

https://proofsandprompts.com/2026/09/10/open-letter-about-th...

Participation in an event so closely associated with Anthropic and OpenAI could plausibly negatively impact the future reputations of participants

11m agoHN ↗

I knew mathematicians were a smart bunch, but honestly, the events of the past few weeks have really given me a new level of respect for them.

As a mathematician, I am a bit disappointed by my (admittedly illustrious) colleagues.

I get the need to take it slowly (and I am a quite impatient person, so I shouldn't get to decide stuff like this), but everything said feels a bit too sour grapes for my taste.

Ok, maybe AI did not solve the field (I believe it will, btw), maybe there is a need for human "understanding", but:

1) They don't seem to consider even the possibility (not the certainty) that they might be wrong, that math as we know it is gone, and we cannot "adapt"

2) They seem to have been oblivious all these years about AI eventually reaching this point (at least I personally wasn't, I predicted this stage back in 2018)

21m agoHN ↗

The purpose is obvious - AI companies are using math to as a PR tool to demonstrate that AI is more capable than humans. This devalues math and mathematicians. There is even a relevant announcement from today, where OpenAI announced they solve 100 open math problems, without even bothering to state what they are.

However, even if they are successful in removing math from the PR toolkit of AI companies, I can’t see it more than a short term band aid. If AI progression continues, the announcements will just transition from big flashy one, to a kid using Claude on their laptop.

I don’t have a solution here, and I’m worried it’s coming to all human fields. So it’s more of an ability to observe what might happen to all of us.

9m agoHN ↗

I don’t have a solution here, and I’m worried it’s coming to all human fields. So it’s more of an ability to observe what might happen to all of us.

You can also look (as I did back in 2018 when contemplating the end of math) at how chess or Go players adapted mentally to the idea that whatever they may do, a machine could do it better (Lee Sedol famously quit Go).

https://archive.is/m9BYI

11m agoHN ↗

Is the advisory group abelian? I'll see myself out...