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I am done with this shit

88 pointsby 3h agoreddit.com
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7m agoHN ↗

Alternative copy/paste of the tweet/Xcretion:

I am done with this shit. It is over. The state of engineering right now is horrible. It has been half a month since I started a new role at a big company. Nobody knows anything here. The specs, code, tests, PRDs, tickets, resolution of those tickets, reports, etc., everything is made by Claude Code. Nobody on my team likes this. They are being forced to ship as much as they can. I have heard multiple times from higher management that pushing code is not a bottleneck, so why are we slow? People are working 12 to 13 hours a day just to press enter. Nobody is reading anything. Humans in corporate are doing nothing on their own. Everyone, literally everyone, from an L1 to an L7 engineer here is doing the same thing. Talk to Claude. There is no sense of victory. Nobody is resolving bugs. In reality, nobody is thinking anymore. Everything is done by LLMs. It is so soul-sucking. I would not mind it, to be honest, if we were at least given the time to check out the code and see what is going where. But no, the goal is to just ship. No matter what happens.

2h agoHN ↗

I do what I am expected to do and get paid for doing it.

1h agoHN ↗

The question: “what is your purpose?”

Valid answer, I guess, though some might wish for a deeper connection to life than a mechanical, subservient existence.

37m agoHN ↗

desperately but it doesn't seem to be on the cards.

52m agoHN ↗

I do what I am expected to do and get paid for doing it.

I would like to point out to you that Auschwitz guards had the same argument

13m agoHN ↗

The difference is that some companies expect people to push back on dumb stuff.

45m agoHN ↗

Sounds like it would have been a terrible place to work even before LLMs. And I bet they aren’t actually shipping much.

13m agoHN ↗

I don’t think the point of the submission is the top post, but the whole thread of agreement.

41m agoHN ↗

To be honest, this is less about Claude Code per se (or any other coding agent) and more about business and corporate culture. In my experience, if you work at a company whose culture is to deliver as fast as possible, then this is ultimately what you get when those same managers start to realize we can also ship 10x faster (no matter the costs). The "Delivery Pressure" is very real in _some_ corporations, and I _believe_ things like Claude/Codex just accelerate this even more, which is what we're seeing in some places. In a fast-place industry, can you blame 'em?

20m agoHN ↗

It is crazy in agency work now.

Before you used to sometimes having more tech savy customers put out a VB or Delphi click demo over an weekend kind of effort, and then complain why is the delivery so expensive.

Now they do the same with AI agents.

And then people still think their developer jobs are safe.

12m agoHN ↗

And then people still think their developer jobs are safe.

From my experience, most developers are actually very anxious and scared about their future.

37m agoHN ↗

Nice. A Claude bot summarises the comments of people complaining about Claude so you don't have to read them!

31m agoHN ↗

My company was recently acquired. My company was currently going through a platform modernization. The company that acquired us is also going through a platform modernization. They acquired us specifically to use our new platform. Our platform isn't even fully built yet. I'm doing 100% of the coding. I'm tasked with finishing the platform, migrating all my companies existing customers to the new platform, migrating the new company's existing customers to new platform all while continuing to sell to new customers. The company is pushing AI-first EVERYTHING. I'm not allowed to hire. The new company had 20+ people working on their platform. I'm now expected to do it with 5. I had to fight for those 5. They thought I should be able to do it with 1 engineer. They are cutting people 30% annually over the next 2 years. 200+ employees to ~60-70. And they are asking me if I'll be ready in Q1 or Q2 next year. Our product person gave AI the legacy code bases to generate a report of all features and gaps. I supposed to go through an HTML file that is easily 100+ pages long and a spreadsheet with 30 tabs and hundreds of rows each. I pushed back that it's not fit for human consumption and let's start with high level gaps and they're acting like I'm not a team player or something. It's ridiculous.

This is crazy. LLM usage has somehow convinced people that it's $999 for not just knowing where to place one nail, but for knowing where to place an almost infinite number of them. Disingenuous marketing by the big players does not help either.

24m agoHN ↗

I'm not a team player or something. It's ridiculous.

This. In the past, when you could challenge a sloppy and rushed feature, done wrongly. You could steer people into better designs without adding much overhead. These days, if you try to challenge those no-reviews, ship-50k PRs daily, you instantly get labeled as AI-sceptic, someone who is afraid of change, afraid of loosing your job. I don't see a way out from this.

27m agoHN ↗

Any reddit noscript/basic HTML frontend alternative?

27m agoHN ↗

In the post, he had only been at the company for 2 weeks. Maybe they have a really bad on-boarding process and he just wasn't seeing the process clearly.

Surely it cant' be this bad, or a company would collapse?

25m agoHN ↗

That whole thread feels like something out of Black Mirror. Especially the comment from Claude AI right under the OP’s post summarizing the thread. The dark humor of the juxtaposition of Claude AI’s harsh summarization of all the users’ pain….pure Black Mirror.

22m agoHN ↗

This company is not treating agent code generation as if it's out in the open. Why in the world would you work like this? It has nothing to do with management. If your coworker is just going to do agent review just share the fucking prompt and do it yourself like you would with any other tool. Jesus fucking christ.

15m agoHN ↗

The other day I inherited a repo from someone that left the company. The first one to be almost fully vibe coded.

It's horrible. It's over engineered in every way. It follows a completely different pattern than the other repos. It adds 10 CLI options that don't have any use (why does Claude add --threads to everything). It's impossible to follow the flow of the code. Of course, days after I inherited it, it broke so good luck to me fixing it I guess

11m agoHN ↗

It is like inheriting Assembly codebase written by a compiler.

You will not edit Assembly in this.

Claude will have to edit it and Claude will not whine.

13m agoHN ↗

No sense of victory?

I'm still surprised sometimes at how rapidly I can prototype something. Is it always shippable? No. But something that would've taken me an amount of time I can't afford to is much quicker.

This past weekend I decided to build an iOS app as a personal project. Normally I wouldn't have the time to work on one like that but I was able to get a working POC that is actually usable for my trivial use case in a matter of hours.

I'd call that a victory.

9m agoHN ↗

For pure design space exploration that can be a victory, equivalent to sketching a UI on paper being faster than making it in HTML, but is that the work you're actually doing most of the time? Maybe for some people it is.

10m agoHN ↗

That is an impressive level of tone-deafness to see an automatic AI-generated summary of comments as the top comment on the thread.

9m agoHN ↗

That's a default bot in that subreddit, it's there for all posts. I get your criticism but I don't think this was done deliberately.

6m agoHN ↗

Not going to lie, I thought that was the point.

10m agoHN ↗

I think people should use even more of Claude to come up with system design. All the people I know use LLMs for generating code and slop documents. But not for ideas themselves. So the pattern I see is lots of code + lots of documents but built on system designs that are generated by humans without LLM oversight. They don't use it in the one place that matters the most!

9m agoHN ↗

We are there. I’ve got fuck you money in the bank. I’m just kicking back waiting for the company to fail. It’s free money until then. Make up some shit and go back to doing other stuff.

They have lost money for the last two quarters, customer satisfaction is at an all time low, staff morale is gone, defects are piled up, costs are escalating on tokens and cloud, nothing is getting done but everyone thinks it is.

Let it burn.

We need a total reset. The entire market is overblown, overhyped and sells things nobody needs. Layers and layers of stupid to get nothing done. It’s an extraction economy. I’ve seen people replace simple stuff like a spreadsheet with a cloud hosted vibe coded turd. What the fuck is wrong with people?!? Have we collectively forgotten simple and elegant solutions?

9m agoHN ↗

I wonder if having a good account plan, a good ruleset, and a nice graph of the entire platform would give me tremendous leverage with companies like that. Nothing beats a swarm of agents checking everything, running multiple probes, and finding the best solution for every problem, including generating all the questions stakeholders need to answer before proceeding.

I believe I would end up enjoying life more while everything gets solved through agentic development.

If I compare this with my previous companies (publicly valued companies), I would definitely be on vacation while still delivering perfect PRs and features in a matter of hours, instead of the 2-3 week timelines it took me and my team in the past.

8m agoHN ↗

This sounds like it's gonna explode in our faces, tbh.

7m agoHN ↗

Theres something ironic about the top comment being an AI summary of everything, so I don’t have think or synthesize a view for myself.

5m agoHN ↗

All of this to avoid the reality that experience and expertise are a thing that can't be easily commoditized.