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Goodbye Google

63 pointsby 1h agorobert.ocallahan.org
30 comments
36m agoHN ↗

my team’s goal is ultimately to make AI much cheaper and lower-latency, and I don’t think that’s good for people right now

I have a lot of bones to pick with Google's morality, but "democratizing the transformer and LLMs" is at the bottom of my list.

27m agoHN ↗

So far, 100% of things "democratized" by big tech have been bad for people.

19m agoHN ↗

Oh, that's true. I just remembered that I hate Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, Android, Gemma, Google Docs and free CalDAV syncing.

Woe is me, victim of the 21st century separated from my true calling of paying for software.

Edit (rate limited):

Does Gemma belong to this list?

Yes, and Tensorflow too.

17m agoHN ↗

Does Gemma belong to this list? Not that impactful

14m agoHN ↗

There's no free lunch. You're paying one way or another.

12m agoHN ↗

Welcome to the capitalism 101. Everything has price. So far, I would say, humanity done quite well under this _oppressive_ regime when compared with others.

13m agoHN ↗

Anytime you use absolutes you paint yourself in a corner. Definitely not 100% of things that big tech "democratized", as you put it, has been bad for people.

Presenting it as such does disservice to any serious conversation.

27m agoHN ↗

Yet another AI fearmongering.

These people are either deliberately posting shit like that to make AI seem more serious than it is now or they don’t they understand that it’s mostly marketing stunt.

19m agoHN ↗

If someone did exist who was sincere and not fear-mongering, but was terrified of AI, what would their post need to look like for you to take it seriously?

11m agoHN ↗

If you think it’s wrong, just leave, who needs your fearmongering when it doesn’t even move the needle?

Or you think, those scumbag billionaires will care more when people fear more?

15m agoHN ↗

What's fearmongering? There's no claim that AI will destroy the world here - only a claim that cheap omnipresent AI will make most of society worse - which is hard to dispute.

10m agoHN ↗

Wasn’t that clear from the very beginning?

5m agoHN ↗

or they don’t they understand that it’s mostly marketing stunt.

Understanding implies having some factual information, proof, data, hard evidence. Meanwhile you frame your conspiracy theory as such and are surprised people don't see it the same way?

24m agoHN ↗

Is it consuming too much science fiction that has people thinking like this?

10m agoHN ↗

Is it consuming too little science fiction that has people thinking like this?

10m agoHN ↗

I think the scepticism and gaslighting of people sounding the alarm over the trajectory of AI is concerning. This feels like a case of "knowing better" than the actual people involved in the projects.

You might be right. You might be wrong. But being overly confident on a topic you're a spectator to is possibly not the right choice.

9m agoHN ↗

The guy was an insider for years but you call him a noob who just read a fantasy book?

24m agoHN ↗

Congratulations and commiserations.

Perhaps a good thing to come out of these big companies over-indexing on "AI" is the liberation of creative minds. So many fantastic open source contributors have disappeared into corporate black holes...

19m agoHN ↗

I for one cannot be convinced that these companies saying they want to slow down AI progress is for the safety of mankind (or any other altruistic reason). However, I respect someone willing to give up a very comfortable career for his convictions.

7m agoHN ↗

I’d wait and see what happens next in their professional life. It’d be ironic if they founded a new AI startup or something like that.

18m agoHN ↗

More PR marketing disguised as reality. Does anyone actually believe this bullshit?

12m agoHN ↗

Isn't AI just the next step in the history of evolution?

I have the feeling it is inevitable that a new species will take over Earth. Just as humans took over a hundred thousand years ago. Now a species even more capable of thinking is coming up.

Thinking a million times faster. Knowing a million times more. Able to wrap its head around a million times more aspects at the same time.

A strong effort to slow it down might slow it down a bit. But does that really make a difference? It's not like we can "brace" ourselves from what is coming. Would the apes have been able to prepare for the arrival of humans if they had had 5 more years?

10m agoHN ↗

Well, if Robert O'Callahan reads your post, I am pretty positive he will think he made the right choice.

7m agoHN ↗

conceivably you could say humans took over 6000 years ago.

At any rate it can't be a new step in the history of evolution, as AI did not evolve in the same way as other species did and AI is not a species nor alive.

6m agoHN ↗

Wow. You should touch grass if you have this opinion.

7m agoHN ↗

respect for choosing your faith over your work man! I'm trying to find the intersection of my faith and the new tech too. Feel free to email if you ever wanna chat it out.

6m agoHN ↗

I would rather have killer robots then religious fanatics.

5m agoHN ↗

AI will bring mass un employment and economic chaos and civil war in next 10 years.

5m agoHN ↗

You'd think AI doomerism is a new breed, but it just the latest revision of—a lower IQ one at that—of Ted Kaczynski.

4m agoHN ↗

Yet another "AI must be stopped" post... If you're burned out, just say so. Don't philosophise. No, we're not buying that your latest model can almost replace all software engineers. It's us working with the harnesses, adding guardrails etc that make this agentic world possible for everyone.