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Goodbye Google

97 pointsby 1h agorobert.ocallahan.org
35 comments
52m agoHN ↗

my team’s goal is ultimately to make AI much cheaper and lower-latency, and I don’t think that’s good for people right now

I have a lot of bones to pick with Google's morality, but "democratizing the transformer and LLMs" is at the bottom of my list.

43m agoHN ↗

So far, 100% of things "democratized" by big tech have been bad for people.

35m agoHN ↗

Oh, that's true. I just remembered that I hate Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, Android, Gemma, Google Docs and free CalDAV syncing.

Woe is me, victim of the 21st century separated from my true calling of paying for software.

Edit (rate limited):

Does Gemma belong to this list?

Yes, and Tensorflow too.

32m agoHN ↗

Does Gemma belong to this list? Not that impactful

30m agoHN ↗

There's no free lunch. You're paying one way or another.

28m agoHN ↗

Welcome to the capitalism 101. Everything has price. So far, I would say, humanity done quite well under this _oppressive_ regime when compared with others.

29m agoHN ↗

Anytime you use absolutes you paint yourself in a corner. Definitely not 100% of things that big tech "democratized", as you put it, has been bad for people.

Presenting it as such does disservice to any serious conversation.

17m agoHN ↗

Very little "AI discovered cure for cancer" articles these days, more "10,000 workers let go, to be replaced with chat bots"

7m agoHN ↗

Interesting thing to write in a forum provided for free by big tech. Probably using a browser that big tech offers for free. On a phone or laptop purchased from big tech. Connected using networking gear and software made by big tech.

All bad?

39m agoHN ↗

Congratulations and commiserations.

Perhaps a good thing to come out of these big companies over-indexing on "AI" is the liberation of creative minds. So many fantastic open source contributors have disappeared into corporate black holes...

34m agoHN ↗

I for one cannot be convinced that these companies saying they want to slow down AI progress is for the safety of mankind (or any other altruistic reason). However, I respect someone willing to give up a very comfortable career for his convictions.

23m agoHN ↗

I’d wait and see what happens next in their professional life. It’d be ironic if they founded a new AI startup or something like that.

28m agoHN ↗

Isn't AI just the next step in the history of evolution?

I have the feeling it is inevitable that a new species will take over Earth. Just as humans took over a hundred thousand years ago. Now a species even more capable of thinking is coming up.

Thinking a million times faster. Knowing a million times more. Able to wrap its head around a million times more aspects at the same time.

A strong effort to slow it down might slow it down a bit. But does that really make a difference? It's not like we can "brace" ourselves from what is coming. Would the apes have been able to prepare for the arrival of humans if they had had 5 more years?

26m agoHN ↗

Well, if Robert O'Callahan reads your post, I am pretty positive he will think he made the right choice.

22m agoHN ↗

conceivably you could say humans took over 6000 years ago.

At any rate it can't be a new step in the history of evolution, as AI did not evolve in the same way as other species did and AI is not a species nor alive.

22m agoHN ↗

Wow. You should touch grass if you have this opinion.

19m agoHN ↗

There's no new species being created here. A tool has been made. Either humanity will wipe itself out using said tool, destroy the tool, or learn to live with the tool.

19m agoHN ↗

Would make me too uncomfortable to work with and for people with such opinions.

23m agoHN ↗

respect for choosing your faith over your work man! I'm trying to find the intersection of my faith and the new tech too. Feel free to email if you ever wanna chat it out.

21m agoHN ↗

AI will bring mass un employment and economic chaos and civil war in next 10 years.

20m agoHN ↗

Yet another "AI must be stopped" post... If you're burned out, just say so. Don't philosophise. No, we're not buying that your latest model can almost replace all software engineers. It's us working with the harnesses, adding guardrails etc that make this agentic world possible for everyone.

19m agoHN ↗

If you think humans are a net positive to be around, you wouldn't be spending trillions trying to build a machine to replace them; not just their work, but all aspects of their lives.

14m agoHN ↗

As much as I cannot disagree more with the author's fundamental premise (religion), it is refreshing to see someone claim to have a belief and then follow through, change their behaviour to match their belief, at no small cost to themselves, and in pursuit of doing the right thing.

13m agoHN ↗

Thanks for living your values. I might not fully agree but I appreciate people whose convictions are genuine and altruistic.

Sometimes people use the "Yet you participate in society" meme as a shield for blatant hypocrisy, like a Marxist-Leninist Twitch streamer who lives in a multi-million Hollywood mansion, drives a Porsche and wears thousand dollar pants.

12m agoHN ↗

I really enjoyed the work, and for a while I told myself it was relatively harmless, but over time God forced me to confront the reality that the main impact of these tools will be to accelerate the design of a new breed of AI chips...

There's no arguing with someone who claims God forced them to do something, but I do wish this person good luck in whatever they do next.

7m agoHN ↗

God, your conscience, it’s all the same.

9m agoHN ↗

The more people leaving 'because AI' just makes me sad that there have been so few leaving 'because advertising'.

6m agoHN ↗

Advertising is an irritation. AI is a threat.

5m agoHN ↗

Advertising is surveillance, and surveillance is a threat.

8m agoHN ↗

Why is uncertainty about the motives of one form of superintelligence terrifying, whilst, at the same time, uncertainty about the motives of another, omnipotent supernatural intelligence comforting? i.e. the “I don’t know God’s plan, but I sleep well knowing He has one” line of reasoning.

6m agoHN ↗

One of them is pretend and the other one probably won't be?

8m agoHN ↗

There is a solution to this problem of "AI going to kill everyone".

- Create powerful AI but don't release it and keep it secret.

- Ask this AI to create some sort of virus that can be delivered to every human in the world without them knowing it and this virus does a fundamental change to the human brain such that humans never ever could even think of hurting other humans.

- Release this powerful AI to everyone.

Will that work?

6m agoHN ↗

... this virus does a fundamental change to the human brain such that humans never ever could even think of hurting other humans.

I do believe this is possible for a virus to achieve, I just don't think it's possible without killing the human.