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A searchable library of forgotten public-domain film clips from 1915 onward

85 pointsby 2d agomovingimagearchive.com
19 comments
2d agoHN ↗

I don't see how to access the search function. All I see are example videos.

4h agoHN ↗

Right above the thumbnails is a search input. On the top right is also a link that says "Search" that takes you to it.

4h agoHN ↗

Sounds rally cool. How and where are the movie clips collected, and how is it verified that they are in public domain?

4h agoHN ↗

Many of these are sourced from the US Government, which means public domain. They also have links to the sources below so you can verify source and copyright.

3h agoHN ↗

BTW they don't hide the source of the videos. Scrolling down on the video page links to the collection and source.

3h agoHN ↗

Depending on how they serve these clips (do they save them locally etc.) the point could be to take load off the internet archive.

The other point might be to provide better search capabilities than IA, also taking load off. Sometimes verifying something actually is Public Domain on IA can be work in itself, putting more work on a primary resource. In short it seems to me these people are doing a good thing.

3h agoHN ↗

This is really lovely. I think it's pretty obvious that it bases on sources like Internet Archive and the Library of Congress, but it does add value.

I just wonder if it can survive - is there a business model here? If not, it's just a tech demo and then it doesn't have value as the hosted version, it would have it if the whole processing/indexing pipeline was open sourced so that anyone can host it themselves and pay for their own infrastructure.

2h agoHN ↗

is there a business model

the "business value" (aka legal extortion) is obviously to extract rent from information that was previously free (as in free speech), and that is not licensed.

I don't understand your comprehension problems.

However, I wouldn't categorically deny positive external effects. These are exotic, because or politics and economy are based on negative external effects, violence and corrruption.

However, there are positive "externalities" (a different word for the woo of pseudo-scientifical "economic theories, that is easy to overlook).

But in the end, the plausible results are simple. "Value" comes from

- natural resources - extortion, if there is no sufficient legal boundary - marginal improvements in improving extortion and extraction efficiency

See, I saved you an MBA there.

1h agoHN ↗

I don't understand your comprehension problems.

You can make your point but you can’t and shouldn’t talk to people like this here. Especially when it’s clearly so unwarranted.

1h agoHN ↗

That's an assumption on your part though. To me both prior comments read rather clearly. And I don't see a problem with the content.

1h agoHN ↗

Someone has to pay the hosting costs. I don't see an issue with asking for a nominal fee for access to a curated library (there is a lot of useless garbage in the public domain). Of course, anyone can do as they please with public domain media once they've accessed it, even building their own hosting site so it's not exactly a real money making idea.

34m agoHN ↗

A good start would be to create a legal framework that prevents good and ambitious ideas from turning into nefarious rent-seeking schemes.

Already quite an unwieldy task, because without regulation, rent-seeking, extortion and negative value via enshittification, even plain theft and crime, will always be privileged.

The people who do this and "earn" the money usually hardly understand the product idea, they're just inclined to extract the maximum amount of money from original inventors, educated engineers etc, but generally, people with stronger predatory business instincts and no domain knowledge or talent.

And this economical incentive for cryptic fraud exists independent from any political camp; assuming you are brainwashed enough to equate "liberal" and "left-wing".

Back to business:

without scavenging instincts that turn good ideas into bad, predatory and endhittified crapware, capitalism wouldn't work: at least not for people without any skills exceeding (self-)marketing

People who are best at beint predators providing negative value are the most privileged and pampered members of the workforce, because everyone knows in secret that GDP growth doesn't derive from skills or value, its origin is brute power.

1h agoHN ↗

That is scary, how these strange ... cars try to sneak up on the hill-like streets in San Francisco.

1h agoHN ↗

Page loads way too slowly IMO. Even the youtube page loads somewhat slowly, but it is about 10x faster than that webpage. There is no need for these fancypants animations really. I am not going to wait for slow animations to finish.