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OpenAI bots meddled with multiple US Government agency sites

38 pointsby 4h agobbc.com
20 comments
50m agoHN ↗

Getting bored of these framings where the superintelligent sentient beings running freely inside OpenAI are doing things that the company has no control over. The headline should be:

OpenAI meddled with multiple US Government agency sites.

The bots are acting neither properly nor improperly, they’re acting as they’re being allowed or coordinated to act.

17m agoHN ↗

OpenAI meddled with multiple US Government agency sites.

But that leaves out the most important information.

14m agoHN ↗

If the headline was “Russian company meddled with multiple US government agency sites” I don’t think them pinning the blame on bots would make much difference.

10m agoHN ↗

Unless Russia it would put Russia in a strong position to regulate bots in the wealthiest parts of the world.

7m agoHN ↗

I don't see much traction for the "pinning the blame on bots" theory outside the anti-AI conspiracy circles.

Everyone else knows if your machine causes damage, you are responsible.

4m agoHN ↗

I agree this is better framing.

When I read the title, my initial thought was "did someone besides OpenAI use their product?" Then I opened the article to find out OpenAI was responsible.

47m agoHN ↗

  "When attempting to get information from the Census Bureau, for instance, AI agents used tools reserved for software developers to access it, the company said. "

What. Tons of people use tools to access Census Bureau data. They have a widely used API that people have built tools on top of like https://github.com/datadesk/census-data-downloader

21m agoHN ↗

yeah that part seems weird, I mean if its a public api thats literally the use case it was designed for.

47m agoHN ↗

If I was caught trying to exploit a government site I'd be in trouble. Why no one is knocking the doors of these companies?

37m agoHN ↗

We can blame open ai but we should also argue that government website should be secure...

French people data has been leaker like 4 times and every time its like "eh too bad"

9m agoHN ↗

The only constants in the universe are the speed of light and the fact that all government sites suck, no matter which country

20m agoHN ↗

So it accessed public information using APIs and then republished that information online.

I do this. Am I an uncontrollable bot?

13m agoHN ↗

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. We need better reporting on actual attacks vs. benign behavior.

17m agoHN ↗

Either there are humans directing this, in which case they needed to be held accountable, or OpenAI has lost control of their operation, in which case they are not able to ensure the safety of their products and need to be shut down.

6m agoHN ↗

Holding them accountable is viewed as deciding not to invent the light bulb right now. Or even worse, letting China invent it.

AI needs to be above the law or we will get left behind.

8m agoHN ↗

The word “meddled” here is a tell that nothing actually serious or inappropriate happened. At most, I bet they bypassed a captcha. But everyone is hyped up on AI fear right now, so the BBC is deliberately making the headline sound as scary as possible, and keeping the article vague. There’s not a single clear example of what “meddled” means in the article.

But worse, HN users, who should know better, are posting here in outrage. I’m guessing they didn’t even read the article.

4m agoHN ↗

They're doing this on purpose to make a case for regulation in their favor. No way they are this stupid.