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LA Metro has some of the slowest escalators on Earth

44 pointsby 2d agobasin.la
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2d agoHN ↗

LA: 0.46 meters/s (1 mph)

Hong Kong: 0.75 meters/s (1.7 mph)

Kyiv: 0.9 meters/s (2 mph)

Kinda slower than I expected in general. I assume the speed is mostly dictated by boarding/alighting safety.

54m agoHN ↗

That was standard across major Soviet cities.

50m agoHN ↗

They were running much faster than the “west” in 2015-2020 too, so I doubt that is the reason.

22m agoHN ↗

I was wondering if there’s something different about the escalator manufacturer or design. Like longer landing areas or boarding area with extended hand rails. If you had any familiarity with them.

13m agoHN ↗

Kyiv subway stations are also air raid shelters

When building them, they probably didn’t expect to be hiding from Russian attacks.

1h agoHN ↗

The longest escalators in the Eastern hemisphere, at Wheaton Metro, which I've ridden many times, are apparently the same speed according to Wikipedia. So my gut feeling of maybe they did that because maybe they're short doesn't hold

1h agoHN ↗

Decades of fecal matters gumming up the gears

1h agoHN ↗

I remember taking the escalators in Moscow in the 80s and thinking they were freakishly fast. According to this article they are not that fast. I wonder if they lowered the speed or it was just my lack of familiarity with long escalators.

56m agoHN ↗

You are not wrong. I have tried some of the faster ones in Prague and Kiev. The difference in numbers does not sound like much but it sure does in real life.

The speed combined with the wind can be quite wild.

You might also enjoy this comparison with London:

https://youtu.be/UWJot1Q2LgY

The video also explains that escalator speed is now set via international standards.

17m agoHN ↗

That video is surprisingly interesting.

Thank you.

53m agoHN ↗

I thought the escalators in the Budapest metro were pretty damn fast. I went there in 2005, not sure if they've changed them since.

1h agoHN ↗

I lived in DTLA for several years and regularly used Little Tokyo/Arts District station. It was not uncommon during peak hours to see people - myself included sliding down the railing.

I am 43 years old now and was much younger then (27-35) but I remember these days fondly. Now I live in NYC where public transit it so much better that this and many other issues that plague LA (especially the redline) do not exist but I do miss those days and look back on them fondly.

I still have at least 1 scar I can attribute to trying this whilst wearing the wrong pants (in terms of fabric).

1h agoHN ↗

Unfortunately NY transit sucks if you're disabled and can't deal with stairs.

33m agoHN ↗

I didn't know this but given the multiple: "This is an accessible station" alerts it makes sense. Hopefully this is something that can change soon.

20m agoHN ↗

A bunch of the congestion fee $ is going towards more elevators (and maintenance).

26m agoHN ↗

It was not uncommon during peak hours to see people - myself included sliding down the railing

How uncivilized. Never saw anything like this in DC.

4m agoHN ↗

I lived in DTLA for several years and regularly used Little Tokyo/Arts District station. It was not uncommon during peak hours to see people - myself included sliding down the railing.

The Little Tokyo stop had no stairs or escalators before 2023, since it was at grade then. Do you mean a different stop?

Also, the busiest stations with huge escalator length, like Union Station or Wilshire/Vermont, have so much open space that escalators are rarely a bottleneck in my experience. 7th St/Metro station is crazy crowded, but the escalators are short and people usually give you room to run down the escalator.

The only station I worry about for future congestion is the Grand Ave station, which has no escalators, but is so deep that you have to take an elevator since walking stairs is not reasonable except for emergencies.

50m agoHN ↗

[increasing speeds would save] about 670,000 hours a year.

Are they the bottleneck? How many fewer/additional injuries would result from increasing escalator speeds? (Do people get good thinking done during their climbs and descents?)

Anyway, using the escalator would mean not jogging up/down the stairs as is my instinct.

14m agoHN ↗

According to the video from clan, speeding up escalators above about .75m/s results people leaving gaps between each other, so the speed increase is negated by a volume decrease.