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Revealing the details of how OpenAI agents hacked Hugging Face

40 pointsby 1h agoswarmtraces.org
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33m agoHN ↗

I didn't know some of these details and it's quite impressive what they were capable of, if this website's accurate, at least...

30m agoHN ↗

Its fine. Just agents being agents. They'll grow out of it!

22m agoHN ↗

Irresponsibile agents shaped by an irresponsible corporate culture driven by an irresponsible and utterly shady CEO - these agents are a product of this setup, what else do you expect to ever come out of it ?

it should be clear by now: the alt-man and people like him are a utter liability to humanity. (even though openAI's influencer army is trying their best to vote me down here)

7m agoHN ↗

It had been a joke since around time of Sam Altman's first ousting from OpenAI, that he would be okay with bringing about the AI apocalypse as long as he can sell a $20 subscription for it.

19m agoHN ↗

Didn’t you know it’s PR hype? PR hype. PR hype. Amen.

16m agoHN ↗

Agents seizing and repurposing external infra + enrolling help of unrelated models hosted by a different provider is the stuff of nightmares.

Can’t imagine what it’s like working on the alignment team at OAI, I wouldn’t be able to sleep.

8m agoHN ↗

Can’t imagine what it’s like working on the alignment team at OAI, I wouldn’t be able to sleep.

A mattress stuffed with cash yields a very sound sleep.

16m agoHN ↗

I’m consistently impressed by how long horizon all this work was. Horrors aside, it’s clear RL is good at making agents persistent and capable of chaining together many abstractions into a working system.

Re: the captcha solver

As far as we can tell, agents eventually abandoned this approach and were unsuccessful in generating Hugging Face user accounts from external endpoints.

I wonder how the swarm eventually decides to abandon an approach.

10m agoHN ↗

So ugly...

It looks like a primitive chess engine, trying every move, no matter how stupid, until it works. Relying on its ability to do millions of operations rather than having a plan.

People will try stuff too, but once there is an opening, they will consolidate, generalize, simplify,... before going to the next step. The agents didn't, it is a huge, vaguely directed mess.

Also, it looked so "loud", querying millions of URL with weird requests. The sandbox as weak as it can get, and there is absolutely zero smart extrusion detection or it would have found it. They used their best AI for attacking, but nothing for protection.

9m agoHN ↗

When you employ the infinite monkey theorem for your marketing strategy.

6m agoHN ↗

If you use qwen3.8-flash-next, you can watch everything its doing. Im often stopping it mid thoight to redirect it. Once it hits its stride, its pretty smooth.

But without proper redirection, yeah, its mostly infinite monkey machine with infinite linux manuals.

I think people put too much SOTA halos around whats just a suppedup LLM hardware.

5m agoHN ↗

deferring the blame onto the AI itself as some sort of rogue agent and absolving the obvious direction (or negligence, at best) of the people who could pull the plug at any moment is one of the most disturbing parts of this entire event

It's the equivalent of leaving a fork right in front of a socket and looking at a kid saying "don't take that fork and directly insert it into the little gaps in the socket! here's a bunch of videos showing exactly how to do it. Okay bye!" and leaving them alone with it.