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Show HN: Make your logo extra bright on HDR screens

81 pointsby 1mo agosoverybright.com
85 comments
Certain logos started standing out to me on LinkedIn as brighter/whiter than everything else around them.

I dug in and found out this is accomplished by adding a gain-map to an existing JPEG, visible only on HDR screens like a newer MacBook Pro. LinkedIn is the only social network I've found that isn't stripping them out, but of course you serve them up on your own site.

I worked with Claude Code to turn it into a little browser-based utility (no registration) and hope you find it useful!

1mo agoHN ↗

Oooh fuuuuuuck. Do we now have the HDR screen version of the 90s/00s CD volume wars? MAX IT OUT?!? BE LOUDER! BE BRIGHTER! WTF.

1mo agoHN ↗

"It's such a fine line between stupid, and uh" ... "Clever."

1mo agoHN ↗

Our new brand awareness strategy involves firing high power lasers directly into the prospect’s eyes, burning the logo into the centre of their fovea.

This way we get to skip awareness, interest and desire and get the prospect straight to action.

1mo agoHN ↗

Those wars still are onmnipresent in recorded music. (But haven't hit theaters yet, JCBP)

1mo agoHN ↗

This is fun and will try to embed it in our project next week.

1mo agoHN ↗

Please don’t. Your profile states that you’re an ethical hacker.

1mo agoHN ↗

I just noticed something similar today as an ad where the green oval button was so bright that the rest of the white screen felt grayish/dull than white. It could not be unnoticed playing on the notion that the eye is attracted to the brightest thing on the screen

1mo agoHN ↗

Please don’t do this.

You know it will be annoying.

1mo agoHN ↗

On the other hand it’s a great signal that whoever uses that is an obnoxious twat and should be plonked.

1mo agoHN ↗

Pretty sure Fifth Star Labs’ Sky Guide iOS icon does this. Not the whole icon, just the stars in it. Hiding the app in a folder helps but I’m looking for a better alternative just because of this.

1mo agoHN ↗

Uninstall the app? Leave a review, tell the developer.

1mo agoHN ↗

As a workaround, you can use a home screen shortcut to start the app.

But I agree that app developers shouldn’t do this, or should at least provide an option to turn it off. (Some apps allow customizing the app icon color, so it seems that should be possible.)

1mo agoHN ↗

That’s a good idea, I haven’t used the shortcuts feature. I think this app also abuses the ability to change the app icon to provide subtle animations - but there’s no option to turn it off or customise.

1mo agoHN ↗

I mean, use it responsibly. Of course people won't, it's the internet, but a skilled designer may use it to highlight a word or an accent to draw your eye. It can be tricky in dense interfaces to draw focus to something (little tooltips or big buttons aren't the best answers). This is just another tool in the toolbox.

1mo agoHN ↗

It’s bad because it dims the entire display. You’re assuming your app is more important than whatever else might be displayed. It can also take a bit for the os to go back to the sdr state. I’ve had a few cases where safari gets stuck in hdr mode and won’t revert u til I force closed.

1mo agoHN ↗

I saw a restaurant on Uber Eats with a HDR enhanced image. The whole screen felt dim but I thought it was just me. How can it dim the whole screen?

1mo agoHN ↗

I’d assume it’s the display manager dimming sdr content to have sufficient brightness range for hdr content.

1mo agoHN ↗

It’s bad because it dims the entire display. You’re assuming your app is more important than whatever else might be displayed.

What are you talking about? I have a HDR display, in Chrome on Arch the literal only change in the submission's demo is the brightness of that particular element, doesn't change anything else on the screen, sounds like you have a broken HDR implementation.

1mo agoHN ↗

I think they meant that by making an element brighter than the rest you basically change the contrast and the rest will feel dimmer

1mo agoHN ↗

On mac the OS remaps the brightness range when HDR content appears. The rest of the content literally and materially dims.

1mo agoHN ↗

Lol, so one HDR element on a website changes the entire desktop environment to be dimmer? :P Fun implementation.

1mo agoHN ↗

If your setup runs everything in forced hdr you won’t notice. OSes like MacOS will map sdr making everything look dim that’s not hdr.

1mo agoHN ↗

Dimming the entire display is not how HDR works especially on OLED phone displays.

If you are not outside in bright sunlight it’s almost certain that your screen is not at its highest brightness in the first place.

All HDR is doing is adding more range between the darkest element and the brightest element.

I.e., if you go to this webpage and set your screen brightness to maximum, the HDR effect visibly goes away because you’re already telling your screen to maximize brightness everywhere. Put the screen brightness at 50% and the HDR effect is visible: the bright parts are brighter.

1mo agoHN ↗

Just tested it, everything but the bright dimmed. That’s very annoying. On an iPhone 14 Pro…

1mo agoHN ↗

We haven't had dense interfaces for decades at this point.

Still, even with the best intent what you suggest is still annoying. Okay, you got my attention, i now know what you wanted me to know. Are you going to nag me for all eternity?

1mo agoHN ↗

We haven't had dense interfaces for decades at this point

GovTech is still full of them. But B2B/B2C, you're right.

The nagging will continue until morale improves.

1mo agoHN ↗

If you want to opt-out of the second coming of <blink>:

chrome://flags/#force-color-profile -> sRGB

1mo agoHN ↗

Oh, I bet the author is kicking himself for not including a blinking high-brightness class.

1mo agoHN ↗

Or better, a blink tag that switches between HDR and non HDR text.

1mo agoHN ↗

Ain’t no use unless you wrap that bad boy in a <marquee> too.

1mo agoHN ↗

Have you no mercy within you ... you ... web developer.

1mo agoHN ↗

We found that user engagement was substantially increased by making the home page just rapidly flicker between red and green. Some users stared at it for hours!

1mo agoHN ↗

Didn't worked so well for the Pokémon show.

1mo agoHN ↗

Pokemon is the most valuable franchise IP on the planet. Maybe it did work well.

1mo agoHN ↗

The page says it should work on my phone but it doesn't. No difference between the SDR and HDR versions on my phone (S26 Ultra / Chrome).

1mo agoHN ↗

It also depends on your screen brightness. In my case, if it’s set to maximum, there is no difference between SDR and HDR.

1mo agoHN ↗

Came here to say this. It just cranks the brightness up for the pixels. But if you are already at 100% there is not much headroom so all the "before and after" for me were pretty hard to differentiate. There was some minor difference if I studied it closely but I'd probably not notice it during normal use it was so slight.

If I went down to say 50% brightness then it was much more pronounced, but who lives their life with their eyes only half open like that?!

1mo agoHN ↗

That's what I'm finding as I researched it:

Android's HDR brightness slider is low - The single most common "HDR does nothing" report on Android 15/16 devices. Samsung also has Super HDR/Extra brightness / Vision booster toggles under Display. Any of them at the conservative setting would have an effect.

1mo agoHN ↗

I’m known for having my brightness down to the minimum at all times. The demo page effect is very pronounced. Effectively, it is ignoring my system level preference which makes me hate it a lot.

1mo agoHN ↗

I was only able to test it on my iPhone. Let me see if the S26 needs a tweak (or confirm if it's not support)

1mo agoHN ↗

Every social network strips these tags except the worst one

Clearly we need more of it

I do not in fact want sites trying to get around my display preferences to post their visual presence on screen.

1mo agoHN ↗

If you own an HDR display then your display preference was to be able to display HDR.

Settings > Accessibility > Display Text & Size > Reduce White Point

1mo agoHN ↗

I own an HDR screen to display HDR content *when and where I want it*. It has significant value in photography for example. But I certainly don’t want to be looking at hdr ads.

1mo agoHN ↗

I witnessed my first HDR mobile game banner ads recently and it’s horrible and should honestly be illegal or something

1mo agoHN ↗

How can we expect to give out a technical ability like HDR but then gatekeep it to only “artistically-valid” endeavors? Who is the arbiter of taste?

Ultimately, you choose what websites you go to, just like people who create websites choose how to present them.

1mo agoHN ↗

We gave websites the ability to auto-play audio, then they showed they couldn't be trusted with this privilege and we took it away again. We can do the same with HDR images, gating them behind a "click to view", or "allow this site to display HDR content" (plausibly someone could do this with a browser extension already)

1mo agoHN ↗

I’d certainly be happy to see more controls in the browser side to help control this.

I personally don’t consider this anywhere near as problematic as auto-play audio, but I recognize that that’s subjective.

1mo agoHN ↗

Auto-playing audio used to be fine too, it took a while for certain websites to learn how annoying they could be with it - give HDR some time!

1mo agoHN ↗

I’m starting to wonder if this is a good idea for a Safari browser extension (if that’s something that can be controlled that way)

1mo agoHN ↗

There's a pretty simple solution - gate it on full screen mode.

1mo agoHN ↗

Impressive, wrong on both counts.

(1) HDR display (e.g. you bought a macbook/iphone) doesn’t mean you want random videos in the instagram feed to be full brightness despite setting your screen brightness to minimum in a dark room and (2) reducing white point just darkens stuff across the display, it doesn’t disable the thing people are complaining about.

1mo agoHN ↗

I just figured out that low power mode also disables HDR and that’s a one-click toggle.

So to me the user has an off switch and the content creator also gets to express their creative freedom to use the feature or not.

If you don’t want to see HDR content you can do something else with your day. Nobody is holding us hostage to use our phones in a dark room or scroll Instagram.

1mo agoHN ↗

iOS does not have this switch and it’s a pretty common platform. Low power mode also disables other things. You can of course do what you want with your creative freedom, you’ll just have to live with peoples’ reactions for non-consensually showing them something they passionately do not want to see.

1mo agoHN ↗

I just disagree with this concept of “non-consent” in this context.

This would be like buying a color TV and getting upset that the commercials don’t remain in black and white, and saying you didn’t consent to that.

But unlike in the color TV analogy we have two methods of disabling (low power mode and reduce white point setting) and we don’t just have 3 TV channels to choose from.

I will definitely concede that the browser and OS should have more controls around this feature.

1mo agoHN ↗

Maybe it would be more acceptable if you added louder 24-bit music to the logo?

1mo agoHN ↗

Waddabout an ImageMagick command or explanation how to export in Inkscape?

1mo agoHN ↗

I’ve noticed this trend on LinkedIn just recently. Very noticeable at night, obviously, when my screen is naturally more dim. But these logos are like blinding headlights.

1mo agoHN ↗

In Firefox, the page tells me neither my browser nor my display support HDR. In Chrome, it works fine. Latest browsers on a Pixel 8.

1mo agoHN ↗

I noticed this as well on Firefox and I say, good, please don't fix.

1mo agoHN ↗

If you use HDR videos, you can get bright white even on soon browsers that don’t support HDR images

1mo agoHN ↗

I hate gain maps in JPEGs. I noticed that because I insisted on capturing JPEGs and not HEIF on my iPhone, and I found that the iPhone would also show overexposed parts (such as the sky) brighter than plain white. That's how I came to know gain maps. Fortunately on iOS, although I cannot disable the inclusion of gain maps in photos I take with Camera.app, I can stop Photos.app from rendering them: just turn off "View Full HDR" in the settings.

The Metapho app on iOS seems to be a good app to view the gain map itself. I give it no access to my photos and use the share sheet to view gain maps of specific images.

1mo agoHN ↗

This seems like yet another reason to not run HDR. It is kind of annoying even when used responsibly, but now we'll have people using it irresponsibly too.

1mo agoHN ↗

I'm on an SDR setup so I wasn't expecting to see the proper effect, but the square labeled "SDR White" is actually `rgb(220, 220, 220)`.

1mo agoHN ↗

Now someone vibe-code a browser extension which detects this and removes it.

A uBlock Origin rule for the whole domain of anybody who does this would be fine too.

1mo agoHN ↗

This extra-bright-everything-on-HDR-screens crap makes me navigate away from sites every time.

Immediate irritation and if I could setup an adblock rule to stop it somehow, I would.

The worst cases give me the starting pangs of a headache, and make me adjust my display to account for it.

Can we somehow make it a rule that a website has to ask if they can blind me first?

1mo agoHN ↗

Look at the bright side, if it starts to get really overused then maybe the other platforms like LinkedIn will start stripping them too.

1mo agoHN ↗

and browsers might do so too

like something on the line of "if (image small || partially covered || mostly transparent) then don't use HDR"

1mo agoHN ↗

For your uBO (Lite) custom filters

soverybright.com##:style(dynamic-range-limit: standard !important)

linkedin.com##

:style(dynamic-range-limit: standard !important)

1mo agoHN ↗

I hit an advertisement in Gas Buddy that was super bright, clearly using HDR yesterday. Bummer.

1mo agoHN ↗

I’ve always wondered why it happened, assumed it was a rendering bug.

fwiw it seems like “reduce white point” overrides any of these effects - which is good.

1mo agoHN ↗

Thanks, I hate it. This just makes me think that I don't want to use a browser that supports HDR...