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Viral clip in question: https://www.tiktok.com/@espnatbat/video/7688719334973230366
Article is about the impact of social media pile-ons (and has been getting praise within tech) so it is within scope for HN.
Those comments are pure vitriol juice, my god, and they just keep coming from all angles as to why that dude is an absolutely piece of shit on very little data. Incredible stuff, and a good lesson right there.
Probably from unmarried people anyway
TikTok threw up a big "login" popup that I couldn't skip, so here is a youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUwQmrEFf7E
Normally the comments on that video are something I could laugh along with, but reading them after the article is... sobering.
I'm Danish, but how is this terrible? I should show these people a video of my twins sleeping in a snow covered trolley outside the bar I was having a beer and a board game by the window at.
When I first moved to Denmark, I marveled at the babies in unattended carriages parked outside the grocery stores.
The only terrible thing is the food they're having.
In Copenhagen I was strongly adviced not to leave my bicycle unlocked outside, for quick visit at a grocery store. Everyone I know takes their bikes home overnight.
That this is something that has to be told to adults is the saddest part of humanity. No one has grown up.
And she spells it out really well. But yeah.
Very well written both in prose and tone. I'm glad she decided to tell this story. If the author isn't a professional writer I think she could be.
This is a great "behind the scenes" style look at the actual people behind a viral clip. Luckily they have an extremely strong relationship to help soften the blows here, I'm not sure an average (not even bad!) relationship could come out of something like this unscathed.
There's something feral in us that comes out from time to time, especially online from the safety of our screens. I found the announcers within the range of good fun but when it gets to people reaching out to break up their marriage or telling him to kill himself it becomes really sobering.
I think this is part of what people are calling the lonlieness epidemic - despite thousands of screaming voices the whole thing makes me feel hollow and hopeless.
Love the story, but isnt this LLM?
" I understand how it looked on television. But we could hear each other. The announcers and audience couldn’t.
There is something else the world doesn’t know. "
Most of this screams LLMisms. Which is totally understandable from someone who isnt a writer and is just trying to get their story heard. But the prose is formulaic and kind of bad, as all LLM prose is.
(Quite surpised the husband wasnt described as load bearing)
Everyone loves to hate right away when they see something like this. It's a good practice to try to make up a story that gives an alternate, less vilifying explanation to what you're seeing. This is a great response from Erika. Thanks for sharing.
Not really, the same people will have endless empathy for cold blooded killer, who murdered her three children!
It is just good old misandry!
You never know what others are going through, or what is happening in a relationship between two people, even when you think you’re close to them. So the online masses making these judgements based on a short clip is kinda insane although it doesn’t surprise me.
She’s a great writer.
A lot of people owe this family an apology. Here’s a sampling of some of the vile comments left on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1wpll52/clip_of_a_...
If "she" refers to the LLM used by the author, sure. (The article is clearly mostly LLM-written/assisted)
I read it and didn’t get that impression.
Perhaps you could endow your claim with some evidence.
Based on what?
Even if so, this would seem to be a positive use of LLMs. Something traumatic happened, and she wants to put her perspective into the public dialog rather than continuing to be a passive subject of the social media industry's two minute hate. I know in such a position I myself would be at a loss for words, with the perfect being the enemy of the good enough.
Hmm. Pangram AI detection says the piece is “100% human written.”
Amused by a claim about writing composition that uses “clearly mostly” back to back.
That's a legitimate usage of both words.
Some of them would read this and still complain. There's no use in trying to please some very unhappy and likely single people online.
Wow, Reddit is horrible. Atrocious behavior. Leave your brains in the anteroom!
Modern Reddit provides a simulacrum of commentary. There are posts and people discusing these posts, but nobody understands or wants to know anything about the underlying topic. The lack of comprehension is crucial to the community.
David Foster Wallace's This is Water speech more relevant than ever.
Link to transcript and audio of the This Is Water commencement speech:
https://fs.blog/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/
A really toxic part of online interactions is that it's very common for people to see a tiny snippet of another person's life and then project all of their own personal resentments onto them.
Is there any benefit to social media? Just seems like a new form of cancer we have to deal with now along with everything else.
Homemade Dog videos. Not sure of anything else
Story also mentions SF Giants sports commentators making jokes about this
Or speculation grows and a few hours later it's suddenly historical fact, like a modern version of telephone... just with a castle harmful outcome.
Quite a common thing to see online where strangers judge relationships off some small slice. You see it on reddit and relationship subs all the time.
The internet feels like one those shitty religious villages were everyone is gossiping.
Another important story hiding in there:
That women could take over remodeling!
That man has found a treasure of a woman!
It’s great to see her setting a role model for others.
Almost anyone can be seen as a hero or a zero if the right 15 second clip is captured. We love it when our best moments hit social media, but everyone also piles on when we are caught at our worst (or what appears to be bad, even if it not).
It is amazing how many haters emerge like in this case, when there is so much more to the story.
The incredible thing is the husband came in for bashing not plausibly based on his actions in the video but based on mutating narrative.
Go from "X great, Y OK" to "X great, Y terrible".
Algorithmic social media amplifies and promotes our basest, vilest impulses. Crowds were always worse than people, but now these "technologies" put that into turbo-overdrive, 5 billion people at a time, pushed and prodded by the engagement-maxxing machine. I don't see a bright future if we don't get a hand on this, and I don't see us getting a hand on this.
Hopefully AI slop kills it
Another side to the story is that I wonder how many of the reddit/tiktok posts pouring gasoline on the discourse were LLMs.
If only we truly knew how much divisive online content was generated from geopolitical adversaries…LLM or not.
It’s making me sad that this article needed to exist in the first place. Just leave people alone.
If it was the other way around they would be saying what a hero he is lol.
Kinda off topic, but as a single Father I cant help but notice how much less of a support system Fathers get. When shit hits the fan its always people assuming the worst. A Fathers major support system is their Wives and Family. Good for him for having such a great Woman by his side... Im not complaining, just an observation
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Giants fan here. Watched the game. Even when it was happening and before knowing any of this, I could tell that Kruk and Kuip were going too far. It was starting to get super uncomfortable.
For those who aren't Giants/baseball fans, Mike Krukow (the Giants' color commentator) is retiring at the end of this season. He and Duane Kuiper have been the Giants' primary TV broadcast team for something like 37 years and have been best friends since they were teammates in the early '80s.
Krukow's mind is still sharp, but he has inclusion body myositis, and it's becoming unsafe for him to be anywhere other than at home.
It's just an emotional situation all around. They both thought that they would probably continue broadcasting together for at least a few more years, and now they're not.
So they're pulling out all of their usual schticks -- including poking fun at the fans -- and taking them really, really far because they know it's the last time.
I'm sure they would agree they went a little too far with that one.